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    Hey all, I am new to the forum. Fished the upper with 2 buddies yesterday. A lot of Silvers still hanging around and one friend caught one that was chrome, definitely a keeper 5 months ago. Warm temps but the wind was gusting at probably 35-40 and casting was no joke. had to south paw it or cast backhand to keep from hitting myself in the head. Anyway we caught a lot of untargeted silvers and one friend managed 1 dolly bout 20'' swinging leaches. All in all, good day to be out on the water.

    just a couple more casts,
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    Quote Originally Posted by aksnowfish View Post
    Hey all, I am new to the forum. Fished the upper with 2 buddies yesterday. A lot of Silvers still hanging around and one friend caught one that was chrome, definitely a keeper 5 months ago. Warm temps but the wind was gusting at probably 35-40 and casting was no joke. had to south paw it or cast backhand to keep from hitting myself in the head. Anyway we caught a lot of untargeted silvers and one friend managed 1 dolly bout 20'' swinging leaches. All in all, good day to be out on the water.

    just a couple more casts,
    aksnowfish
    Right On! Was down there myself today, the wind was no joke! The day consisted of us Casting a few dozen times, then heading back to the truck to warm the hands. We probably fished 4 hours and only landed one Silver. Didn't see any 'bows or dollies. One guy said he saw someone catch a nice dolly yesterday, perhaps that was you..

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    Black articulated leeches!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Yea mr potato head likes those black leeches! And if he's not hungry there is usually some chrome behind him that will grab it.

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    Trout like them to
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    Its my opinion that those silvers are in their spawning beds. Given that they are quite a unique run of silvers, I don't know why there is even angling allowed at that bridge right now. It seems to me that from January to about April that area should be off-limits. I'm pretty sure it's the same few people fishing there and they only do it because they're so addicted to the sport they're reduced to standing on ladders because its too cold to stand in the water. I would urge the F&G to close this in the future for the winter.

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    And while they're at it they should close the Russian River because a special run of reds run up it, and they should close the Situk River because steelhead spawn there. You have to be kidding me. Those old silvers are tired and hardly fight. They are inadvertently caught and quickly released. No harm done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKGrayling View Post
    And while they're at it they should close the Russian River because a special run of reds run up it, and they should close the Situk River because steelhead spawn there. You have to be kidding me. Those old silvers are tired and hardly fight. They are inadvertently caught and quickly released. No harm done.
    I'm not trying to be hostel, I like to fish like everyone else....I'm just saying a 3 month break from january to april, thats all. How about a buffer zone then?

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    well I think that would make it Jan till Jun 11 if I am not mistaken..............if memory serves me right the hole upper closes and parts of the middle????????? from May first so depending on when they would shut it down you would get a little bit of time in April. I don't think they are spawning there?????? I think they are going further up??????? But regardless it would be a tough pill to swallow for some people good idea or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullbush View Post
    I'm not trying to be hostel, I like to fish like everyone else....I'm just saying a 3 month break from january to april, thats all. How about a buffer zone then?
    Well said from a Commercial fisherman who wants to outlaw all sport fishing. You guys are all the same. Next you will be saying that we should stay at home and eat fish that you provide to the stores. You can do it cheaper and with less polluting the water and not as much wasted fish……………………………..

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    Fishing for trout and catching spawning fish is a lot like the commercial by catch issue. We don't need to be harassing spawning fish but at the same time, we should also stop bycatch. Better shut down commercial fishing.

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    Do not think the fish are spawning right now anyway.

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    I do see fullbush's point. Makes me think about it. If there's fresh ones in the river I'm sure there are some spawning. Though its unintentional, its also inevitable to catch them. I don't know what to think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor_1 View Post
    Trout like them to
    That's the chrome I am talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishKing View Post
    Well said from a Commercial fisherman who wants to outlaw all sport fishing. You guys are all the same. Next you will be saying that we should stay at home and eat fish that you provide to the stores. You can do it cheaper and with less polluting the water and not as much wasted fish……………………………..
    Aw FishKing I'm a sport fisherman too, so don't be hatin' I'm not a fan of PU but sports fishing is perfectly acceptable, I'm a sports fishing fanatic. I'm just concerned for a really unique coho run thats all. I thought a little closure to insure survival wouldn't hurt much but it seems a few guys are pretty passionate about it so maybe a small buffer zone, like no fishing above the bridge. Now then I have to go prepare my crash helmet for the stoning I'm gonna take for that suggestion

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullbush View Post
    Aw FishKing I'm a sport fisherman too, so don't be hatin' I'm not a fan of PU but sports fishing is perfectly acceptable, I'm a sports fishing fanatic. I'm just concerned for a really unique coho run thats all. I thought a little closure to insure survival wouldn't hurt much but it seems a few guys are pretty passionate about it so maybe a small buffer zone, like no fishing above the bridge. Now then I have to go prepare my crash helmet for the stoning I'm gonna take for that suggestion

    Not to stir the pot but fullbush also works waters where..................well most people don't go to for sport fishing. I am not a fan of comm guys, nor do I dislike them (in general), but I do realize that they are needed to help balance the numbers of fish that make it into the rivers. Sport fish guys alone can't control the numbers of the fish that make it up stream, to many fish is bad for the rivers eco system.
    Reguardless of how we do it, we are all fisherman, and if there is no fish we all lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenaibow fan View Post
    Not to stir the pot but fullbush also works waters where..................well most people don't go to for sport fishing. I am not a fan of comm guys, nor do I dislike them (in general), but I do realize that they are needed to help balance the numbers of fish that make it into the rivers. Sport fish guys alone can't control the numbers of the fish that make it up stream, to many fish is bad for the rivers eco system.
    Reguardless of how we do it, we are all fisherman, and if there is no fish we all lose.
    Not to diminish your excellent point kenaibowfan, but those cohos or their ancestors were ever gonna be caught in a commercial net anyway. the fishing nets are long since put away when those babies enter the inlet. I think they should be considered thats all.

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    Wow fullbush, you just can't catch a break. You should know better than to post something that makes sense. He's not saying close the whole Kenai to fishing. He only suggesting that there should be some effort put into protecting those silvers. The reason they don't fight hard is because they've been living on body fat in a friggin' cold river for months. The physical exersion required to fight a hook in the mouth takes away some much needed energy to survive and spawn. I guarantee you that catch and release mortality of those fish is much higher than you'd expect.
    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishKing View Post
    Do not think the fish are spawning right now anyway.
    So what do you think there doing? Just hanging out playing Pocket Pool? Commercial fishing plays a key role in this states economy as well as a key role in the management of fisheries. Thats not to say that sport fishing doesnt either, but both are important when looking at the big picture. By catch happens no matter what kind of fishing your doing. It comes down to laws and ethics. Do whats right and what isnt breaking the law. For everyone that might be different, but I am not going to tell you what to do. I know what I do and thats all I care about. If your having a moral dilemma about the situation, you better take it up with the Padre. I think I will go fishing instead!

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    Has anyone caught any amount of hens in the winter on the kenai? Every single coho I've caught in the winter has been a buck. It'd certainly be interesting to study those fish and impacts of C&R fishing on them.
    I choose to fly fish, not because its easy, but because its hard.

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