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    A buddy of mine just picked one of these up down in Petersburg. Anybody have any experience with one of these? He's got a trailer he's going to drive to Haines, then take the ferry down Petersburge and motor the boat back. I guess the entire rig sets in at 6,500 lbs. Will a 3/4 ton pull it ok, or will he need to find a dually? Any advice appreciated.
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    1/2 ton trucks in general have a tow capacity of 6000-10,000 lbs. Typically 3/4 ton are a bit more but it all depends on "the truck" and how it is set up hence the range I already stated. I wouldn't suggest that you use a rig that is at max capacity for a very long trip. My Tundra Crewmax is rated at 12,500 but it has the larger motor and the tow package.

    If its a newer truck you can go to the manufacturers website and see just what your trucks tow capacity is. Hope that helps.

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    I have always been intrigued by those boats. I would love to have one made of aluminum and be able to finish the electrical and interior on my own.

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    I have seen these before, set up for long range cruising on a budget; a trawler that is sort of like a motor sailor without the sail. If you have the time this boat will take you just about anywhere you want to go, guess they can really handle the weather. They get really good fuel economy if you donít mind cruising along at 6 knots all day.

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    I pulled a Dodge Grand Caravan, curb weight 4500 pounds, that probably had at least 500 pounds of stuff in it, on a U-Haul vehicle trailer that weighs 2210 pounds, with my GMC 2500 4X4 Crew Cab with 6 Litre engine, factory trailer towing package, and a class five hitch.

    Total weight was over 7000 pounds, and the truck, not a dually, handled the tow splendidly, in November, all the way from Spokane to Whitehorse, with no problem at all. Only used 4WD twice going though some heavy snow on the Alaska Highway.

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    A 3/4 ton will pull it easily as far as tow capacity, it will be even easier if it is a diesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breausaw View Post
    I have seen these before, set up for long range cruising on a budget; a trawler that is sort of like a motor sailor without the sail. If you have the time this boat will take you just about anywhere you want to go, guess they can really handle the weather. They get really good fuel economy if you donít mind cruising along at 6 knots all day.

    Under for sale by owner: RARE 1994 - Last one made, Hull # 31

    Guess they didn't make many.

    That's what I was thinking. Reminds me of a Bartender boat as far as the stern goes. Looks like it would take a following sea pretty well.

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    Should be no problem with a 3/4 ton, but he should see what his hitch is rated at. Not all hitches are rated to the same weight that the truck is rated to haul.

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    I think there is one of those boats in whittier, think a older woman owns it.

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    Thanks guys. I'll let him know. He's pretty excited about the boat. He's retired, so I imagine getting anywhere fast in the sound is not a priority.
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    I'd say that is one heckuva sea boat if ever there was,
    tho if retiring in it he may not need that so much,(in the sound)

    But aren't those Fuel Burn numbers incredible. Figuring Fuel Consumption in Quarts per hour....Very Cool

    Possibly, it is going to do a fair bit of rolling, by definition of the Hull Design, even on relatively calm day ??
    But what a boat, very interesting
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    3/4 ton vs 1 ton trucks.

    Think of it in terms of bullet ballistics; the .338 cal. can cross over into the .375 cal. stats depending on type of load.
    The 1 ton truck loses load capacity due to it's heavier chassis, while the 3/4 gains in the stats due to it's strength plus lighter chassis. Thus, most well equipped 3/4 tons can do the job of a 1 ton and most .338's can do the job of a .375.

    I'd buy a 3/4 ton truck while hunting with my .338, saving money and weight.

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    Myers, very interesting illustration.

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    Just don't forget the added wieght of the shoulder pad needed with the .338 vs the .375.....

    Interesting boat for sure. I just can't get over the look of it though. Whatever floats your boat though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myers View Post
    3/4 ton vs 1 ton trucks.

    Think of it in terms of bullet ballistics; the .338 cal. can cross over into the .375 cal. stats depending on type of load.
    The 1 ton truck loses load capacity due to it's heavier chassis, while the 3/4 gains in the stats due to it's strength plus lighter chassis. Thus, most well equipped 3/4 tons can do the job of a 1 ton and most .338's can do the job of a .375.

    I'd buy a 3/4 ton truck while hunting with my .338, saving money and weight.
    Nice thought, but not quite right. Example; my 99' F250SD is identicle in every way from the frame/chassis, running gear, transmission, engine, brakes, etc, down to every nut and bolt with the only exception being the springs, which determine the payload. As for saving $$, you are correct. The cost difference is/was generaly about $5k between an F250SD and a F350SD Power Stroke equally outfitted.... just for heavier springs. Want the payload of a F350 ? Buy a set of helper springs for under $300.00 and you have a F350.

    If you want to get a auto salesman to stop talking about why you need a 1ton vs. a 3/4 ton, just mention the above.

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    I love it! You are spot on, I want to go shopping just to see the sales guy sweat!

    (I better not start hi-jacking this thread, but what do you think about getting new springs to help raise the height back up to normal, my 250 has a ten foot camper on it that squats the back a bit, would that raise it?)

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    The only difference between a newer 3/4 ton and a 1 ton in any of the major brands anymore is simply one more leaf spring in the rear. I regularly tow 10,000# behind my Duramax Silverado 3/4 ton and it doesn't hardly break a sweat.
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    PM sent to you , Myers.

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    Go get some airbags from six roblees or something similar. You will like that MUCH better than a stiffer spring.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myers View Post
    .338WM,
    I love it! You are spot on, I want to go shopping just to see the sales guy sweat!

    (I better not start hi-jacking this thread, but what do you think about getting new springs to help raise the height back up to normal, my 250 has a ten foot camper on it that squats the back a bit, would that raise it?)

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    Doug-

    I pulled my boat from Haines to Anchorage with a 3/4 ton April before last. I was about 8500 lbs down the road. I would be happy to talk to you or your friend for some details. It is an interesting ride!

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