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    Default Salmon or Rainbow?

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    Okay I'll bite. Looks like a landlocked king salmon taken from one of the local stocked lakes. Was the inside of its mouth black or white?

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    Yep Mike definitely a king salmon.

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    Definitely looks like a king, but that bit of blush on the cheek makes me think rainbow. Tough one. I'll say king based on the body. Tail seems a bit skinny for a rainbow.
    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    looks like a coho
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    Salmon. Too many rays on the anal fin. How did it taste?
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    i would like to see the tail but if I had to guess I would say salmon.........small king?

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    Coho... No question
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    Quote Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey View Post
    Coho... No question
    Cohos don't have large oval spots

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    tail is too skinny for coho.
    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    It is definately a salmon but which kind is a little hard to determine from the photo.
    The gill cover markings are not typical and under close inspection you will notice it has grey gums ala a coho but a black tongue like a king.
    If I had to h***ard a guess I would call it either a jack chinook salmon or jack coho. Without a better picture I can't be 100% certain.
    If the spots on it's back were larger and more oval it could be a pinook (pink/chinook hybrid) but I don't think this is the case here.

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    Looking back at the anal fin, I would maybe say king. It's not a trout for sure. The leading edge of the anal fin is shorter than the base, that would indicate a king. If the caudal fin was showing it would make it much easier to id.
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    Looking at some other pics, I'm almost leaning towards coho now. coho's do get that patch of red on their gill plate where kings do not. Tough call without seeing the tail though.
    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcox View Post
    I caught this fish A couple years ago at Wasilla lake. I belive it was the second week of August. I decided to cast a few #2 vibrax from shore and see if I could catch a few rainbows. I caught a few small rainbows before I caught

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    I would have said coho, but would like to see the tail to be 100%.

    After reading your post I would say definatly coho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcox View Post
    I caught this fish at Wasilla lake a few years ago. I believe it was the second week of August. Since it is close to where I live I decided to cast a few #2 vibrax from shore and see if I could catch a few rainbows. I caught a few small bows before this fish hit. The reds were in the lake pretty thick and were right up to the shore by this time. Some of the reds would chase the vibrax as it neared the bank. Pretty cool to see them swim around. I can't remember the tail shape and don't have any other photos of it. I figured it was a rainbow because of its gill plate coloration and body shape. This picture has been quite the discussion between Bigcox and I and finally he posted it. Its still tough for me to call it anything other than a rainbow because at the time there is no way I would call it a salmon. I am torn between a rainbow and small coho. I have caught a few cohos that do have the blushed gill plate, so yea It could be a small coho. Thanks for all the comments on this "mystry fish." lol

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    Coho salmon.

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    Well, it appears that ADF&G does not stock Wasilla Lake with kings. Only coho and sockeye, dollies and rainbows. It looks a little big for a landlocked coho though... still... it has to be. The head is all wrong for it to be a rainbow.

    Here's the link to Wasilla Lake. And here's the link to a simple identification chart... if it helps.

    The final clue is that yes, it looks like the inside of the gums is white, not totally black like a king would be.

    I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullbush View Post
    Yep Mike definitely a king salmon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Strahan View Post

    The final clue is that yes, it looks like the inside of the gums is white, not totally black like a king would be.

    I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Strahan View Post
    Well, it appears that ADF&G does not stock Wasilla Lake with kings. Only coho and sockeye, dollies and rainbows. It looks a little big for a landlocked coho though... still... it has to be. The head is all wrong for it to be a rainbow.

    Here's the link to Wasilla Lake. And here's the link to a simple identification chart... if it helps.
    The final clue is that yes, it looks like the inside of the gums is white, not totally black like a king would be.

    I stand corrected.

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    Wasilla Lake is not stocked by ADF&G. It's on the wild lake list, not the stocked lake list. Cottonwood creek flows out of Wasilla lake, so this would not be a landlocked coho. It's just a plain old dinky pre-spawn coho buck. I've spawned tons of coho dinks like that before. I have even seen pre-spawn adults smaller than that. They are almost always males.
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