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    Default A potential Russian River Set up?

    Hi!

    So I know its -really- far of but I like to plan for things well ahead of time, so I have time to change things if they needed to be made.

    Now onto my idea!

    So I have a TFO 10wt and an Okuma Helios 9/10 reel.

    I want to go fishing for reds on the russian/kenai confluence and last time I was pretty much unsuccessful mainly because I didn't realize just how fast the current was and how hard it is to get a lure down fast enough. I saw the reds right there. and my fly was about..a foot or so over them (even with multiple splitshot on the line), needless to say I didn't even get a hook up.

    So I was thinking about using a Rio T-11 or T-17 and attach about 4 feet of leader then fly. Does this sound like a good plan?

    What kind of leader/lines would you use ?

    I'm also considering trying for kings in willow. would this set up also work in that situation? I know its a completely different river but I am thinking that it would work. since there is a current and all. What do you think?
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    I use a 9wt lamiglas. I put about 5-6 feet of 25# mono on there. I use only enough weight to bounce off the top of the rocks. Use a slight pull as your fly drifts down steam.
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    8wt!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Hey Alaskaiscold,
    I have been flyfishing the Kenai for 15 years. I take a 10 weight hydros (any 10 weight is good) and make sure I have a decent reel with a good drag. 10 weights do not break. I have broken a dozen 9 weights over the years until I got smart. It is not because of mouth hook ups, normal breaks are when you snag a large greenhead and all hell breaks loose.
    For changeable weights I like a homemade setup...Have you ever heard of slinkies??? Buy some shoelaces that are hollow. Or cut one end open and hollow it out. Now go to a gun shop and buy #4 buckshot. What you will do is slide the Pellets inside the shoelace and light both sides with a lighter and crimp down. Now you have a weight you can tie up in 3 ball,5 ball, and 7 balls. I only do those because if you need more weight, you go to the bigger one or add two slinkies next to each other. I found these combinations work perfect for the Kenai. And if you want to slip into the Russian river you can change very easily. All you need to do now is buy a swivel to attach to your leader. I usually put 3 feet from fly line to swivel, then another 3-4 feet (depending on waterlevels) to the fly. Cast upstream at 45 degrees and maintain contact with the bottom. It will just be a matter of time until you get the hang of "the flip"

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    Great feedbackfrom the forum!! sounds like you have a good Red set up. Sink tips are used quite often by salmon anglers on the peninsula to include myself. Consider the Teeney series sink tips in the T-500 and attach a 4 foot leader. Use a loop for your leader for quick change outs. You will still need some weight as the Russian and the Kenai are very fast rivers.

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    I love actually fly fishing in the fly fishing only water, especially when I'm to only one catching fish hahaha...

    Seriously though, don't try fishing the confluence without weights it'll just piss people off... When the reds are in thick T-17 works just fine especially if you find the right water (look for the first seam off a gravel bar)
    I choose to fly fish, not because its easy, but because its hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey View Post
    I love actually fly fishing in the fly fishing only water, especially when I'm to only one catching fish hahaha...

    Seriously though, don't try fishing the confluence without weights it'll just piss people off... When the reds are in thick T-17 works just fine especially if you find the right water (look for the first seam off a gravel bar)

    No yeah I learned that fishing with no weights angers everyone and your chances of getting a bite is like zero. So yes do you think that my T-17 idea is good for fishing in the russian? it sinks deep enough, fast enough to get in the strike zone and so that i dont tangle up with everyone else.
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    Get Jim Teeny Chuck and Duck and you'll be fine...

    All you are doing is flipping anyway, I wouldn't call that fly fishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey View Post
    I love actually fly fishing in the fly fishing only water, especially when I'm to only one catching fish hahaha...
    Fly fishing only water is soon gonna be in the history books. People are pretty fed up w/ the rich elitest attitudes of flyguys. It doesn't bother me though I just muscle in and start yanking out keepers quicker than my wife can gut and gill em. It annoys the crap outta the the purists every time. Trout only though, if my fly even gets w/ 5 feet of a salmon I fall to my knees and do 5 Hail Marys

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    fly fishing only water is pretty much a joke in this state, in case you haven't noticed...
    I choose to fly fish, not because its easy, but because its hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey View Post
    I love actually fly fishing in the fly fishing only water, especially when I'm to only one catching fish hahaha...

    Seriously though, don't try fishing the confluence without weights it'll just piss people off... When the reds are in thick T-17 works just fine especially if you find the right water (look for the first seam off a gravel bar)
    but hey as long as i am catching fish what do i care if other people dont right?!? i mean if your hunting do you pass up on a flock of ducks in range because it might mess up some one elses chance at shooting ducks
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    Location: Russian River confluence
    Problem: Not hooking fish
    Solution: Use more weight

    You can try to class it up all you want, but when you're flippin' the confluence you gotta put some lead on your line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyo2AK View Post
    Location: Russian River confluence
    Problem: Not hooking fish
    Solution: Use more weight

    You can try to class it up all you want, but when you're flippin' the confluence you gotta put some lead on your line.

    AND Rich wins Again!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullbush View Post
    Fly fishing only water is soon gonna be in the history books. People are pretty fed up w/ the rich elitest attitudes of flyguys.
    That's of SOME flyguys right??? Just like SOME gear fishermen, & SOME driftboaters, & SOME power boaters.
    Rich? Hmmm... I started looking for fly gear about this time this year. I picked up some really cheap used 6wt stuff to get me thru the summer & out on Quartz a couple times, & I finally have a nice used 5wt TFO LK Pro pro & a used Ross Gunnison G-2 reel (have $150. in everything) I picked up so that much is ready for this year, & noe I'm starting the search for a cheap used 8wt setup.
    The newest rig in our driveway is my wifes 12yr old minivan. My 17 yr old daughter drives an '87 Escort that she bought herself ($450.).
    Elitist??? You gotta be kidding! I hang out on here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vance in AK View Post
    That's of SOME flyguys right??? Just like SOME gear fishermen, & SOME driftboaters, & SOME power boaters.
    Rich? Hmmm... I started looking for fly gear about this time this year. I picked up some really cheap used 6wt stuff to get me thru the summer & out on Quartz a couple times, & I finally have a nice used 5wt TFO LK Pro pro & a used Ross Gunnison G-2 reel (have $150. in everything) I picked up so that much is ready for this year, & noe I'm starting the search for a cheap used 8wt setup.
    The newest rig in our driveway is my wifes 12yr old minivan. My 17 yr old daughter drives an '87 Escort that she bought herself ($450.).
    Elitist??? You gotta be kidding! I hang out on here!
    I think the term "Nonresident" should be applied here. I think to say ALL the Fly Fisherman are "Rich Elitests" is incorrect.

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