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    Default Two powders only for30 -06 and 45-70

    My buddy and I were talking last night about loading for 45-70 and the30-06. He is using Varget now and wants only one more powder to use. Any of you guys load for these 2 cals? I was thinking 3031 or 4198 as good options to try, but haven't made up good recipes in mine yet. Thanks for any thoughts. oh, yeah: he is using 165 gr Nosler and 300 gr Speer

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    a short time ago my father and I whipped up a batch of 165 sierra gamekings with some 4198 for my custom mauser 98 06......HOO! that was a hot load and very accurate at 250 yards...I used them for hunting moose and bear, they worked great!.....cant quite remember the exact grains but can find easily find out....



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    No offense to the previous response, but I STRONGLY recommend NOT using 4198 for '06, except possibly for a few lead bullet loads, but definitely not jacketed bullets, especially heavy ones. Perhaps he meant 4831. IMR30301 is an excellent powder for 45-70 and works well for 30-06. You could also use H335 for both of them.

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    Why just one powder? Why not spend the money to get the best suited powder for each? It takes buying an extra pound up front but in the end doesn’t cost any more since you would be buying a second pound at some point ether way. If you get the best powder for each it also gives more future options when you happen onto a new gun someday.
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    H4895 should do the trick.

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    ADfields, he is self admittedly, lazy. He wants to make his life easy and just have two powders to choose.
    Good idea guys. I forgot about the H335.
    Andy, if you are looking, try this one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauserboy View Post
    No offense to the previous response, but I STRONGLY recommend NOT using 4198 for '06, except possibly for a few lead bullet loads, but definitely not jacketed bullets, especially heavy ones. Perhaps he meant 4831. IMR30301 is an excellent powder for 45-70 and works well for 30-06. You could also use H335 for both of them.
    Mauserboy you are absolutely correct on your post, it was 4831......my mistake everyone I somehow didnt realize what I had posted....thanks for the correction.



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    Tell him to get one pound each of H4350 and H4198. He'll be all set for both calibers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kid View Post
    Tell him to get one pound each of H4350 and H4198. He'll be all set for both calibers.
    I second that! Excellent choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunt&FishAK View Post
    Mauserboy you are absolutely correct on your post, it was 4831......my mistake everyone I somehow didnt realize what I had posted....thanks for the correction.
    Well if it was 4831 with a 165 gr it wasn't "hot". You wouldn't be able to get enough powder in the case to have high pressure
    I have 5 30-06s and have used nothing but 57 gr 4350 and 180 Nosler partitions for years.

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    you know i havent done much reloading, only did it with my dad when i lived in idaho for a year.....i plan to go back down and learn all i can about it from him (he worked in the Speer factory for 15 years)... when i say they were hot....i only mean that they shot very well in my limited opinion, had excellent accuracy ( again in my limited opinion) (2" groups at 250 yards), and performed well on moose and bear up here....I still have some left...



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    I would stick with that load then, no question. 2" at 250 with a 30-06, my load research is over.

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    I use RL19 for the 30-06 and H322 for the 45-70. I could also live with H4350 for the 30-06 and RL7 for the 45-70.

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