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    Does anyone understand how first, second, and third choices work??

    For example say I applied for hunt DM BIG which only have out 4 tags and put that as my first choice. Also say I much DM 60+ as my second choice and they gave out 4 tags as well.

    Then 5 people put DM BIG as their 1st choice and DM 60+ as their second choice

    Then 5 more people put DM 60+ as their first choice and DM BIG as their second choice.

    Would F&G draw 4 of the 5 people that put DM BIG as their first choice and not even go into the other applicants 2nd choice draw apps because they handed out all the tags to those that put them as first choice. Thus making for no reason for others to even bother applying for DM BIG as their 2nd choice if they feel more applicants would put DM BIG as their first choice than there are permits available?

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    Luke... if you put in for big...#1 Medium #2 and half assed Number #3..

    now say you win the lotto... and draw all three... you only get one... so your choice #1 is handed to you...

    if you draw #1 or #3 you get number 1

    if you draw #2 and #3 you get number 2

    the only thing that matters about other people drawing is that if there are 5 tags.. and five draw them... and your #6... your scooted down to choices #2 or #3... automatically as you didn't draw it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Luke... if you put in for big...#1 Medium #2 and half assed Number #3..

    now say you win the lotto... and draw all three... you only get one... so your choice #1 is handed to you...

    if you draw #1 or #3 you get number 1

    if you draw #2 and #3 you get number 2

    the only thing that matters about other people drawing is that if there are 5 tags.. and five draw them... and your #6... your scooted down to choices #2 or #3... automatically as you didn't draw it.
    my understanding is that each hunt has its own draw set... and the numbers are printed out down the line... when they are all compaired... if you have three draws in your name... you get the first pick... and your name is removed from the other two lists... and next in line moves up.
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    OK thanks Vince, that makes more sense for sure.

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    yep, the computer doesn't initially take into account your order of preference. It just sees your picks and assigns them each a unique "magic number". Then it runs a random number generator and if the number it assigned you for that tag comes up then you are the lucky winner. Now if you are super lucky and the unique number assigned to one or both of your other choices comes up then it will cross reference and assign you the more preferred tag according to your ranking. Any other tags will go back into the open pot and be randomly assigned a new number belonging to some other lucky hunter.

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    Others have explained it pretty well. Here is a quote from the ADF&G website "Drawing Permit Hunt Information" page: http://www.wildlife.alaska.gov/index...ermits.lottery

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    The computer then randomly assigns a number to each hunt on each valid application. The random number is referred to as your "draw number." Party hunt applications receive one draw number for each hunt. That is, both applicants on the party hunt application receive the same draw number per hunt, so if that number is drawn, both party members receive a permit.

    Permits are awarded to applicants with the lowest randomly assigned draw numbers up to the number of permits allocated for that particular hunt. If five permits are to be awarded for a particular hunt, the five permits will be given to the first five lowest draw numbers until the total permit allocation is awarded. For example, if four of the five permits have been awarded, and a party application has the next random number, the party application will be skipped. This is because there is only one permit left available, and two permits would have to be awarded for a party application (one for each member of the party). The permit will instead be awarded to the next individual applicant whose number is selected.

    After all permits have been tentatively assigned for a particular big game species, the listing is gone through to identify whether any individual has been selected for two permits for that same species. When this occurs, the individual is awarded a permit based upon their first, second or third choice of hunts on the permit application. The other permit is then made available to the first individual applicant with the next lowest draw number. "

    Hope that helps.

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    yeah, vince was faster and "more" right than me. As he said all the individual hunt applications are given a random number and your low preference tag just goes to the next on the list if you have multiple. I was technically incorrect in saying that they go back into the "pot" and are assigned a new number.

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