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    Default Are illuminated scope reticles legal

    for moose and/or bear? Couldn't find anything on ADFG website or a quick search of the forum. Anyone know offhand? Thanks

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    its been awhile since i looked it up but when i did (many years ago) the law was written to the effect of.... no "projected" light sights ie: lasers and flashlights. this allowed the use of red dot sights when they came on the scene... but to be safe give the troopers a call.
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    I do know from a couple of archery classes (mine and my kids) that it is illegal to use illuminated sight pins on a bow and this would appear to me to be the same thing, so I believe that it is illegal.

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    You may not use electronics or lights attached to the bow if it's in a weapons restricted hunt. Otherwise lighted sight pins are fine. For rifles you may not use a lazer projected beam, but you can use rangefinding and illuminated reticle scopes. You cannot use enhanced night vision, though.
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    <H2>I'll give it to you straight from the law books. In essence, yes you can use lighted reticles on firearms, but not on bows on restricted weapons hunts. Also it outlines what else you can and cant do. An artificial light is basically a spotlight.

    5 AAC 92.080. Unlawful methods of taking game; exceptions


    The following methods of taking game are prohibited:
    (6) with the use or aid of a machine gun, set gun, or a shotgun larger than 10 gauge;
    (7) with the aid of a pit, fire, artificial light, laser sight, electronically enhanced night vision scope, radio communication, cellular or satellite telephone, artificial salt lick, explosive, expanding gas arrow, bomb, smoke, chemical (excluding scent lures), or a conventional steel trap with an inside jaw spread over nine inches, except that
    (A) a rangefinders may be used;
    </H2>5 AAC 92.085. Unlawful methods of taking big game; exceptions


    The following methods and means of taking big game are prohibited in addition to the prohibitions in 5 AAC 92.080:

    (10) with the following archery equipment or devices in a restricted weapons hunt that authorizes taking by bow and arrow:
    (A) any type of electronic device, or light attached to the bow, arrow, or arrowhead, except a non-illuminating camera or a lighted nock on the end of an arrow;
    (B) scopes or other devices attached to the bow or arrow for optical enhancement;

    Plain enough?

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    Yes, thank you. I should have mentioned it was a rifle scope.

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    Default deja vu

    This isn't the first time this has been discussed here.

    Last time, if memory serves, multiple people went to the horse's mouth (ADF&G) verbally and got different answers. I chimed in and said it would behoove ADF&G to use this site to give real clarification to real questions like this to people that are trying to obey the myriad of hunting laws there are (you have to be a @#$% lawyer to not break a hunting law here) and I got blasted for preaching something so heretic.

    Good luck with the answer. Try to get it in writing or at least remember a name if you take this step personally so you'll have a leg to stand on if they bust ya.

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    You didn't get blasted for that FM, you got told that the state fish and game office would never use a private for profit website to distribute information or answer questions. They have their own website and most certainly would be far more apt to publish info like that on their own FAQ. There is just no way that they are going to put info out directly to the public as a whole without it being signed off by multiple people in the upper ADF&G hierarchy. Sure it would be nice to have that direct access but I don't ever see it happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuJon View Post
    the state fish and game office would never use a private for profit website to distribute information or answer questions.

    There is just no way that they are going to put info out directly to the public as a whole without it being signed off by multiple people in the upper ADF&G
    Those are opinions. My opinions differ.

    It should happen. It would be helpful to law abiding Alaskans. There is no law it would break.

    You might be right. So might I. Possibly even both of us are right; that's possible too. K?

    Hey now! Aren't you supposed to be deleting spam right now? I just reported another guy a few minutes ago. Just kidding, though I really did. Thanks for helping to defend us from all the dumb spam here LuJon.
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    ADF&G won't make an opinion anyway. They leave that up to the Wildlife enforcement side of the Alaska State Troopers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDoug View Post
    You may not use electronics or lights attached to the bow if it's in a weapons restricted hunt. Otherwise lighted sight pins are fine. For rifles you may not use a lazer projected beam, but you can use rangefinding and illuminated reticle scopes. You cannot use enhanced night vision, though.
    I just called Anchorage F&G and they conferred with their bow certifying specialist and stated the following: It may not specifically say that you can't use lighted pins when hunting in a general area where rifle hunting is allowed, but most troopers are geared with the knowledge that lighted pins are not allowable on bows in archery only areas, so you would most likely be ticketed and would have to go to court over the issue.

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    If Timmy thinks so, then I will defer to him. I am a bowhunter ed instructor with only a few months under my belt. I should amend my comments to say that any light you use to illuminate your fibers can not project a beam and that's most likely where you would get in trouble. I talked with wildlife trooper a few years ago when I was working on a red-dot sight (did not project a beam) that was attached to an adjustable archery sight so I could adjust it for yardage. He was very interested and gave me the thumbs up as long as it was used in the general season only. I guarantee that if I planned to go into the field with it I would be having it checked out with the highest up F&W Trooper I could get an appointment with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuJon View Post
    You didn't get blasted for that FM, you got told that the state fish and game office would never use a private for profit website to distribute information or answer questions. They have their own website and most certainly would be far more apt to publish info like that on their own FAQ. There is just no way that they are going to put info out directly to the public as a whole without it being signed off by multiple people in the upper ADF&G hierarchy. Sure it would be nice to have that direct access but I don't ever see it happening.
    And lo & behold: http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...ldlife-Trooper

    Sooooo, what changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FamilyMan View Post
    And lo & behold: http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...ldlife-Trooper

    Sooooo, what changed?
    I was going to post that I owed you an apology on this but figures you would already be gloating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuJon View Post
    I was going to post that I owed you an apology on this but figures you would already be gloating...
    It'll be a real boon to the forum members here. Kudos to the forum mgmt that organized making that happen.

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    It will be nice to finally get a solid answer "from the horses mouth" on the illuminated reticle and the "throw away a hide after XX number of days"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuJon View Post
    It will be nice to finally get a solid answer "from the horses mouth" on the illuminated reticle and the "throw away a hide after XX number of days"
    I already PM'd them the former. You PM them the latter question, OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FamilyMan View Post
    I already PM'd them the former. You PM them the latter question, OK?
    already done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuJon View Post
    It will be nice to finally get a solid answer "from the horses mouth" on the illuminated reticle and the "throw away a hide after XX number of days"
    If memory serves me, the crux of the thread in question was moreso inline with "throwing away the meat, after X number of days". Most guys know all they have to with a hide is to nail it to a shed and the birds and critters will take it away.
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    Absolutely fine. I was trying to run down a Leupold illuminated to see what I thought and I happened to stop into Gun Runners. One of the gentlemen informed me that not only did they not have them, but that hunting with them is illegal in Alaska. My BS flag went up, but I politely said thanks and left. I immediately called F&G who verified the person had no idea what he was talking about. ILLUMINATED RETICLES ARE LEGAL FOR HUNTING IN ALASKA.

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