i got my very first black bear on friday. it was about as perfect as a hunt can get. hiked in 10 miles, sat and glassed, hiked a few more, sat and glassed, just about started to head back, and saw a flash of black way up on the hillside. had him in the cross hairs at least 10 times waiting for the perfect shot and then finally took it when he sat down, quartering towards me, with his arms crossed in front of him. i would rather not disclose the location on an open thread but feel free to pm me and ill give you "most" of the details. to add my 2 cents into the "right caliber for bear" discussion, i shot a barnes 210 gr. ttsx bullet, in front of 70 gr of h-4350, from a ruger .338 win. mag. the shot was about 250 m. at an uphill 45 degree angle. it liquified the shoulder and rib cage, made a mess of the lung and part of the heart, and exploded the spine and backstrap. the actual exit hole was only about 5 cm. so the bullet did exactly as it was supposed to. if your looking to flip a bear and learn the definition of "red mist" first hand, by all means, shoot a .338 for black bear. it was just too much. im going to use my 7mm or other smaller cal rifles from now on.