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    Default Any more 338-06 loads with RL17 ??

    I have some 250 grainers I want to load up over RL17 but the data is scarce.

    According to quickload I should be able to get about 2500 FPS which is fine.

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    Suggest 225gr the heaviest bullet to use in the 338-06. The small case capacity and big 250gr takes up alot of powder space.

    Reloder 17 @ 63 to 63.5 with 225 gr part or hornady SP works great.

    The Nosler 210 gr or A frame is a good all around bullet for the 338-06
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    I did eventually run some RL17 338-06 loads.
    This was in warm weather.

    338-06 160 Barnes TTSX 59 gr H4895, 3.35 col, 24" bbl, chrono 3086
    338-06 210 Barnes TTSX 60.5 RL17, 3.35 col, 24" bbl, chrono 2770 Close to max
    338-06 250 Gameking 56 gr RL17, 3.4 col, 24" bbl, chrono 2500 Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by alaska bush man View Post
    Suggest 225gr the heaviest bullet to use in the 338-06. The small case capacity and big 250gr takes up alot of powder space.

    Reloder 17 @ 63 to 63.5 with 225 gr part or hornady SP works great.

    The Nosler 210 gr or A frame is a good all around bullet for the 338-06
    Why do you feel the 338-06 doesn't have enough capacity for the 250 grain bullets?

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    I have shot RL-17 with 210 and 225.gr bullets. Namely the Swift Scirocco 210gr and Nosler Accubond 225gr. The Swift shot 2855 fps and the Nosler did 2750fps. Both with great accuracy and no pressure signs. Plugging those no's into a ballistic program gives you just under 4000 flbs of energy. I used to shoot H4350 but have switched to RL-17. Chrono'd it in summer and fall temps to find it temp. resistant. Just as the claim it is. The Swift had 62.0gr under them and the Nosler took 61.5. As always, start below these loads and work up. Good luck.

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    [QUOTE=alaska bush man;1205960]Suggest 225gr the heaviest bullet to use in the 338-06. The small case capacity and big 250gr takes up alot of powder space.

    Reloder 17 @ 61.0
    225gr
    WW brass
    WLRM primer

    The Nosler 210 gr or A frame is a good all around bullet for the 338-06[/QUOT

    Reloader 17 @ 61.0
    WW brass
    WLRM primer
    225 gr Nosler Part or Speer GS
    2700 FPS in 24" WBY UL
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    [QUOTE=alaska bush man;1428096]
    Quote Originally Posted by alaska bush man View Post
    Suggest 225gr the heaviest bullet to use in the 338-06. The small case capacity and big 250gr takes up alot of powder space.

    Reloder 17 @ 61.0
    225gr
    WW brass
    WLRM primer

    The Nosler 210 gr or A frame is a good all around bullet for the 338-06[/QUOT

    Reloader 17 @ 61.0
    WW brass
    WLRM primer
    225 gr Nosler Part or Speer GS
    2700 FPS in 24" WBY UL
    Good to know AlaskaBushMan....looking to have a 338-06 built this winter as a project. I have a bit of RL-17 so that will be where I will go first. Gonna try both 210 Sciroccos and 210 NPTs first...if that doesn't work I am thinking of going to the 225 NAB. Should be run working some stuff up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alaska bush man View Post

    Good to know AlaskaBushMan....looking to have a 338-06 built this winter as a project. I have a bit of RL-17 so that will be where I will go first. Gonna try both 210 Sciroccos and 210 NPTs first...if that doesn't work I am thinking of going to the 225 NAB. Should be run working some stuff up.
    another good bullet I use is the discotinuned Barnes XLC 225gr bullet with the same load

    reloader 17 @ 61.0
    WLRM primer
    WW brass

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    if you use WLR primers instead of Mag primers use 63.0 of Reloader 17 very good load also at 2700 FPS+ with 225gr

    Weatherby UL 338-06
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak View Post
    Why do you feel the 338-06 doesn't have enough capacity for the 250 grain bullets?
    If the ranges are short no problem with the 250's in the 338-06
    but I believe with today's modern bullets the lighter bullets and new powder (Reloader 17) in the 338-06 will rival the 338 Win mag

    the Barnes XLC 225gr and 61.0 of Reloader 17 with WLRM primers in WW brass is my new load
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    Quote Originally Posted by alaska bush man View Post
    If the ranges are short no problem with the 250's in the 338-06
    but I believe with today's modern bullets the lighter bullets and new powder (Reloader 17) in the 338-06 will rival the 338 Win mag

    the Barnes XLC 225gr and 61.0 of Reloader 17 with WLRM primers in WW brass is my new load
    And the 338 win mag is also improved for the same reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alaska bush man View Post
    If the ranges are short no problem with the 250's in the 338-06
    but I believe with today's modern bullets the lighter bullets and new powder (Reloader 17) in the 338-06 will rival the 338 Win mag

    the Barnes XLC 225gr and 61.0 of Reloader 17 with WLRM primers in WW brass is my new load
    I was able to get just under 2700 fps with RL-17 and 225 Accubonds out of my 21" barrel 338-06.

    I get the best accuracy with 210 Sciroccos and RL-17 and got them to 2760 fps....not too bad from a shorty barrel.

    Had a 250 Swift A frame load as well that shoots 1-1.5" but haven't put it over the chronograph yet.

    I was using Fed 210s....seemed fitting if shooting a 210 grainer

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    I am considering having a 270 rebored to 338-06. What does one need to do from a reloading standpoint beyond the basic fundamentals of resizing brass. Does it require having custom dies made, etc. I'm pretty new to reloading so looking for some guidance.

    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peaceman View Post
    I am considering having a 270 rebored to 338-06. What does one need to do from a reloading standpoint beyond the basic fundamentals of resizing brass. Does it require having custom dies made, etc. I'm pretty new to reloading so looking for some guidance.

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    No need for custom anything. Dies are readily available. Mine are Redding and I can highly recommend them. Just be sure to get/use a tapered button; it makes sizing up from 30-06 a simple one pass affair. Thereafter, it's business as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iofthetaiga View Post
    No need for custom anything. Dies are readily available. Mine are Redding and I can highly recommend them. Just be sure to get/use a tapered button; it makes sizing up from 30-06 a simple one pass affair. Thereafter, it's business as usual.
    Fully agree, Redding dies are the best. Especially for reforming cases! You'll pay a little extra but you won't be sorry that you did.

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    I use Redding as well with my AI version. No complaints.

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    You cannot do better than my RL 17 load with 225 gr
    61.0
    WW Brass
    WLRM primer
    2700 FPS

    The Reloader 17 has awaken this cartridge .......
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    Bushman, which bullet do you use? THanks.

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    I was able to use the load above of 210 Sciroccos with RL-17 on a caribou and moose this year only a day apart.

    At just under 2800 fps (from my 21" barrel, likely be 2850 or more from a standard 24" barrel) I am very impressed with how it works and especially how the 210 scirocco held together.

    On the moose, after I shot it from 300 yards away and it went down, I walked up on the moose and it stood up when I get less than 10 yards from it. I promptly put on between the eyes to avoid getting trampled. After going through both sides of the skull and deep into the neck meat it still weighed 184 grains and opened up nice and wide like it should. Very impressive weight retention, expansion, and penetration.



    Yesterday I went and sighted in the 338-06 with the 250 grain Swift A-Frames. Went into an inch on both 3 round groups I shot after getting it dialed in. RL-17 was able to push the 250s to just over 2450 which isn't too bad from the shorter barrel. Given I am going to Kodiak this spring on a backpack/packraft bear hunt where weight is certainly something to be conscious of, it will be glad to pack the 6.2 pound 338-06 shooting the 250s over the 8.5 pound 375 H&H shooting 300 grainers the same speed.

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    Alaska Lanche I too use the Swift Scirocco in my 338-06 AI with great success also. Shot a huge bull elk 3 years ago with that same combo. All 3 bullets retained 194-196gr. 2nd and 3rd shot were not necessary but with no snow I wasn't chancing it. All shots were under 100 yds. I am surprised more guys don't use this bullet with this cartridge. Cheers.

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    For bullet I like the 225 gr Nosler Part............my favorite

    i have used most.

    But the 225gr for moose in the 338-06 is perfect with my RL 17
    For Elk the 210 Nosler Part

    with anything heavier effects my trajectory to much
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