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    Looking for someone to critique my flies and give feedback. Figured I would mail them and you could just email me your critique.
    I do not have any local tiers to ask. I grew up on the outerbanks and the fish didnt seem picky as to quality and the salmon flys seem more complex.
    I will be fishing in Alaska Aug 2011.
    Appreciate any help

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    Ryan

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    Happen to have a camera or know of someone that might be able to help you out in that arena? It might be more beneficial to you by posting the pics of your flies on here. It'll be more cost effective as well as you'll be able to get more advise from more than just one person.

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    I will have to take some photos and post them
    thanks

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    If you saw the flies I tie you would wonder if I used bugs from my windshield and grill for examples, and they still catch fish


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    Here are a couple. some I tried copying out of cat and some just made.
    Be honest, wont hurt my feelings.
    thanks again
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    Default I always say...

    ...if it is pink, it will catch fish. I'll bet these will work nicely.

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    Well, the critique is dependent on what you are tying for...

    If you are tying to replicate a pattern, or to tie a thing of beauty, then you have a long way to go. Too much thread, poor material proportioning, poor material choices...

    If you are tying a fly JUST to catch a salmon in AK during the height of the run, then you are pretty much on with that first one. Do a bunch more of those - some in orange, some in pink, and some in black.

    Only the fly-tiers are picky...as long as it's the right color, most salmon will hit it, regardless of what it looks like.

    *EDIT*
    Fish the ones from your second post.

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    Nice ties, try to allow yourself about one eye-width of space for the head to prevent crowding the eye.
    Fish when you can, work when you have to.

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    The heads of your flies are either too long or two large. I constantly try to eliminate every unnecessary wrap of thread. Because you are only tying down one material, your heads should be tiny. For me to tie down some marabou, I give 2-3 wraps over the stem, trim it off then wrap just enough thread to completely cover the stem. Then i whip finish and call it good.
    Those flies look fine to a fish, but to me they could use more materials to give the fly multiple colors and some flashabou or something like it.
    Good luck, Riley

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    Thank yall

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    Default Time to prepare...

    For 2011, you have plenty of time to prepare. Of course, if you're targeting Alaska, you have many good options.

    1. Use the "Advanced Search" function to find old threads about: a). good books about Alaska fly fishing, some of which (Top Water) contain excellent photos of good flies, b). how to tie good flies - such as the Dolly Llama. Post photos now and then.

    2. Use a good Alaska fly source for examples. Last year, I ordered some Grayling flies from a shop in Juneau. The flies and service were excellent. For an August trip, you'll want to have flies for silver/coho salmon. You could order a selection of several, or call them to ask for recs to order. Use the flies you get to see how a well-tied leech or other pattern should look: http://www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com...-products.html

    3. Learn to tie and cast some weighted flies. This is one area where some prefer to weight the tippet instead of the fly...and a weighted fly isn't permitted in all locations (check regs to be sure), but salmon are often on or near the bottom and unless you can get your fly to them - it won't matter what the flies look like. Whatever method you choose, learn to cast effectively before your trip. I spent my first fly fishing trip untying knots! Don't catch fish while you're doing that.

    4. Bring your stuff! Might get some ideas while you're here.

    Good luck.

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    If you want some various AK fly samples to duplicate, PM me your address and I will mail you a bunch of the most popular.

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    Ryan:

    Those "bugs" look good. Not sure what rod you are planning on using but make sure it will throw those heavy critters.

    I would HIGHLY recommend you add some hackle tied shiny side foreward at the head. Schlappen or mallard flank works great. This will add a bit of turburlence behind the hackle and really bring your other materials to life.

    Put two flies in the current, one with the hackle and one without and you'll see what I mean. They will also look bulkier and less "snaky" with the hackle.

    Tight lines!

    L

    p.s. I really like marabou "tube flies" (with a fore ward head hackle). It allows a long fly but the use of a short shank hook and short shanks will land more fish. Plus the fly will slide fore ward of the fish and you'll end up with less "chewing" on the fly. It'll last longer.

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    Listen carefully to Riley... He won best of show at the AK Fly Fisher's contest this year against some stiff competition. He has had instruction from the very best!

    Lazer's point about the hackle is spot on, but I do it more for the way the hackle keeps the marabou from hanging up around your leader.

    Counterwrapping marabou with a piece of wire will help keep it together when it meets fish teeth.

    Don't forget to tie some tiny stuff...
    art

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    Thanks again for everyones input. I hope this weekend to practice again.

    I am using an excaliber rod, not sure the weight but I used it for bluefish and strippers when I lived in NC. I also have an 8wt I caught steelhead on.

    I bought several flies. I figured if not good for salmon I can use then for northern.
    http://store.theflyshop.com/catalog/...e.php?pID=3350
    http://store.theflyshop.com/catalog/...e.php?pID=3194
    http://store.theflyshop.com/catalog/...e.php?pID=3349
    http://store.theflyshop.com/catalog/...e.php?pID=3003
    http://store.theflyshop.com/catalog/...e.php?pID=2914
    http://store.theflyshop.com/catalog/...e.php?pID=3327
    http://http://store.theflyshop.com/c...e.php?pID=3290

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    They look great though for faster water I'd try and bulk up the maribou some.

    Tie in a ball of chenille to help keep the profile. Maribou has a tendancy to slick down when wet. In slower waters they're going to work great!

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