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    Default 12x16 cabin plans Thnx to Dan Sullivan

    Please join me in putting together my cabin plans. This project started last fall and lay dorment since November. Dan Sullivan has been a great help and great to work with. Please see the email traffic below as you now join in the building project. I took the materials list provided by Dan to Lowe's in Anchorage and the material cost ended up right close to $2000. This is only the wood, nothing else. I still need to price roofing, doors, windows and insulation along with hardware and pilings. I am getting there and hope to get the materials in before the ground thaws. I am heading to my property tomorrow to check conditions.


    Lowe's does not carry 2X12's how can I sub these?


    From: sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net
    To: fwt03@hotmail.com
    Subject: Re: 12'x16' Cabin
    Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:50:08 -0900

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    Fred, Here is a lumber materials list in a notepad format.
    I can provide a cut list in a csv/excel spreadsheet and some detail drawings for reference in pdf.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: fred transburg
    To: sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net
    Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:24 PM
    Subject: RE: 12'x16' Cabin


    Alright, I was not on the same page with you about panelization. Thanks for straightening me out.

    A friend of mine has a cordless framing gun he said I can use so that will make things easier on site. My original thought in my head was to drag all of the material out this winter to the site and then assemble come spring/summer.

    "Since the cabin is small It would, in my opinion, be more efficient, hauling and constructing, to get a good list of materials and cutlist put together and precut all your materials at home, mark them for identification and then haul them to the site for assembly." This is a great idea and it will give me something to do this winter to still work on my little dream of owning a cabin one day.

    Would you mind formulating a materials list for me so I can start shopping?

    Thanks,

    Fred

    From: sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net
    To: fwt03@hotmail.com
    Subject: Re: 12'x16' Cabin
    Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:34:03 -0900

    .ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P{padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;}.ExternalClass BODY.ecxhmmessage{font-family:Verdana;font-size:10pt;}Fred, the question of thermal bridging in prepanelized has to do with extra framing members in the walls. If you pre build a wall panel you must add aditional framing members within the panel section to facilitate connecting panels together. These extra frame members take up space within the wall that would normally be filled with insulation rather than wood. What you choose to sheet the interior with (drywall or wood paneling) will not be relevent in this issue. If I were building a remote cabin I would probably not use sheetrock for several reasons. 1) drywall isn't cheap and costs more than some paneling options like osb sheetgoods 2) sheet rock will require finishing with mud, tape etc which is labor intensive and also heavy as is drywall, to haul to the site 3) Drywall is very heavy and fragile.

    The point I was attempting to make on the panelization is to save money. Attempting to panelize...or prebuilding sections of walls, floors etc would save labor out at the cabin location but would increase labor and materials costs somewhat overall.

    Since the cabin is small It would, in my opinion, be more efficient, hauling and constructing, to get a good list of materials and cutlist put together and precut all your materials at home, mark them for identification and then haul them to the site for assembly.

    There is also the question of tools and equipment necessary to assemble these materials on site in a timely manner. One can certainly manage to nail together the framing and sheetgoods with a hammer but a cordless frame nailer for 3" frame nails and 2 3/8" sheeting nails would speed the process greatly. Or a small compressor and air tools would also work.
    Dan
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    From: fred transburg
    To: sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net
    Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:31 PM
    Subject: RE: 12'x16' Cabin


    That looks awesome!! What do you suggest for the inside walls? Should I just sheetrock with 1/2"? Would that be easier with better thermal?

    From: sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net
    To: fwt03@hotmail.com
    Subject: Re: 12'x16' Cabin
    Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:17:43 -0900

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: fred transburg
    To: sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net
    Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:03 PM
    Subject: RE: 12'x16' Cabin


    Thanks for the hard work. I did not get the image for some reason, please re-send.

    Thanks,
    Fred

    From: sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net
    To: fwt03@hotmail.com
    Subject: 12'x16' Cabin
    Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:46:44 -0900

    Hey Fred, here is an image of the cabin the way I have designed it now. I am having some difficulty with the panelization becoming to complicated or expensive because of needing additional material to make the panels. One additional issue with panelization is more wood equals less insulation. Another issue with panels is joining them together.
    Anyway...I can panelize the walls if you don't mind the additional cost or loss of thermal efficiency.

    Look at the building and tell me if this fits your needs or do you want to cut more corners. I made the main floor joist 2x10. I could make them 2x6 but you would need another beam supporting the floor.
    main floor is 12'x16'
    porch is 4'x12'
    loft floor is 8'x12'
    windows are framed for 4'x4'
    door 3'x 80"
    roof is 12/12
    eaves are 2'
    floor beams are 4x8 on three pilings.
    2nd floor is 2x12 frame.
    ridge is 2x12 (can be spit)
    rafters are 2x8
    total roof area is 24' x 11' 4" (each side)

    If this doesnt work for you...don't worry about it. I can try a different plan. Dan


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    From:<IMG style="DISPLAY: none" id=P___1320658643 webimdisplayStyle="inline"> Dan Sullivan (sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net) Sent:Fri 10/16/09 12:03 AMTo: fred transburg (fwt03@hotmail.com)4 attachments | Download all attachments (578.9 KB) Cabin 1C.jpg (48.0 KB), Cabin 1B.jpg (150.9 KB), Cabin 1A.jpg (154.5 KB), Cabin 1D.jpg (225.5 KB)


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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: fred transburg
    To: sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net
    Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:27 PM
    Subject: RE: your cabin


    I am looking to build next spring/summer and I want to get the supplies in this winter. I am looking for simple plans for a 12X16 with a loft what do you have to offer?

    Fred

    From: sullivanconstruction@acsalaska.net
    To: fwt03@hotmail.com
    Subject: your cabin
    Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:25:45 -0800

    Hi Fred, So what's the plan? Are you building this cabin before winter or next year?
    Just so you have the info. again.
    Dan Sullivan (not the mayor)
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    http://sullcon.homestead.com/

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    Default poor Dan

    It must suck to have to sign your name:
    Dan Sullivan (not the mayor)

    He sure sounds like he is a great help though.

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    Your photo's have expired........can you re-juice them........

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    Have you thought about the log option?

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    Default what's in a name

    He really needs to sign, Dan Sullivan (not the mayor or the attorney general)

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