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    Default Good SMALL rugged 3x scope with lighted red-dot (or similar)?

    I'm thinking of putting a good rugged 3x scope on my AR-15, and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with something like this with an illuminated reticule or a Red-Dot.

    I'm not looking to spend the money for an Aimpoint and Magnifier, but just some type of a good (inexpensive?) magnified Red Dot of some kind...and I thought I'd heard of something like this. (but not a POS).

    Something that will be good out to LESS than 300yds, for my old eyes...but would still be usable at 50yds.

    Anybody familier with something like this?

    Is my MEMORY going the same way as my eyes, and there really ISN'T anything like this?

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    This would serve your needs extremely well I think. I will be putting one on one of my ARs soon. Saw it at a show once. Illuminated but not technically a "red dot" I guess.

    http://usaoptics.net/iorva3xqrret.html

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    The Trijicon ACOGs would work as well.

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    Expense is the limiting factor for me on Aimpoints and Trijicons and such.

    Call me a cheap, tire kicking bottom feeder...but I've been hearing pretty good reports on the Vortex w/2x for $179
    http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...scope-for-ar15

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    Default Great article here...


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    This looks good also. Anyone have one? I LIKE the AAA power source.
    http://www.mylucidgear.com/product.php
    Or perhaps a 1-4x scope would be the way to go. (like a Short Dot).

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    Meets the rest of your criteria, but only 2x. http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...-red-dot-scope

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    Good and rugged means you will have to wait to save up $$ enough for an Aimpoint or Trijicon

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    Smile You only cry once when you buy quality

    Hey I TOTALLY understand having to pinch pennies in this economy BUT I have seen a lot of shooters buy junk and regret it later.

    My suggestion is go to a quality shop, talk to the staff and do a lay-a-way if possible on an Aimpoint or Trijicon. I have shot a few of those so called "Good Budget" optics (Vortex, Super Sniper and the like) problem is; they are hyped-up 2nd or 3rd rate products with different packaging.

    Just my opinion but I've done this dance and the rhythm sucks brother.

    Good luck and good shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahmby View Post
    My suggestion is go to a quality shop, talk to the staff and do a lay-a-way if possible on an Aimpoint or Trijicon. I have shot a few of those so called "Good Budget" optics (Vortex, Super Sniper and the like) problem is; they are hyped-up 2nd or 3rd rate products with different packaging.

    Just my opinion but I've done this dance and the rhythm sucks brother.

    Good luck and good shooting.
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    I hear you (I agree)...and I think you're right. And, I REALLY like the above Short Dot (it's my dream scope, but I also wanna stay married...and with my cajones too)...but at $2549 c'mon. There has to be a decent alternative, yes?


    I TRY to buy USA, but some products it's almost impossible. (like new tools, these days, or new GM products...etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildalaska View Post
    Good and rugged means you will have to wait to save up $$ enough for an Aimpoint or Trijicon
    Doesn't EOTech deserve ranking among said optics?

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    It's not lighted but I picked up one of the Leupold ultralight fixed 2.5 scopes for a song a while back. Being a Leupold it is of course good quality and they go for cheap on Ebay all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunt_ak View Post
    Doesn't EOTech deserve ranking among said optics?
    Yep. And those are even cheaper

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    Default Looking at 1-4x Illuminated.

    EOThech is very respectable...but I never liked the tube design.
    I always get into dirt/dust/mud...harder to clean quickly.

    Now the new little EOTech looks nice.


    But, I'm kinda revising my needs to something close to a 1-4x (or maybe 1.5-4x) Illuminated scope (like the Short Dot, only NOT $2000++ bucks). And it's gotta be fairly small like the Short Dot (or smaller) as it's going on a carry handle type AR.

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    Default Trijicon

    Check out one of these. No batteries to die.
    http://www.trijicon.com/user/parts/p...0&categoryID=5

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    Yup, the Trijicon! NICE!
    That would be another dream scope like the Short Dot for me (probably even better, actually...no batteries).

    Again, it's probably detrimental to the budget at $918, but that would be the PERFECT scope for what I'm looking for. I have seen the red-dot version as low as $659...and it tempts me!
    http://www.primaryarms.com/product.s...3&categoryId=2

    I have been hearing good things (and good reviews) about the Primary Arms company for less expensive ($119) versions in my (cheap) price range. This one's actually getting good reviews:
    http://www.primaryarms.com/product.s...5&categoryId=2


    But, for a little more I can't go wrong with a new Nikon....especially if I can get it on sale for $279
    But I believe it's more for the illuminated version. Still searching for prices.
    http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-mo...an-4-8446.html
    http://www.nikonhunting.com/riflesco...an-1-4x20.html

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    Yes, here it is, and It's more alright. $769 for the illuminated version. http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-mo...-german-4.html
    For that I might as well go for the Trijicon. It would be perfect, and still much less than the Short Dot!
    (think I can SELL that rationalization to my wife?)

    It'll start like this: "Hey honey, I'm gonna get a new scope for $119..." and work it's way into a Trijicon for $659.

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    I get dealer cost on optics. If you find something you like give me a holler and I'll see if one of my Distributors sells that particular item and get you a good deal.

    The Trijicons with the fiber optic light source are pretty good. You might also look at the Leupold 1X3 M4 CQ/T with the Illuminated Circle dot reticle.

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    Allen, you're alright Bro! Will DO. IF it's EASY for you, go ahead and get me a price on the Trijicon (green dot, I guess) and I'll start working on the wife.

    Timing isn't quite right (so I may not be able to pull it off right now), as I'm trying to wrangle some Flight Training $$$ outta the budget now also! And work has been slow, etc.

    But, I've never really had to go without when I put my mind to something! (I'm really spoiled!)

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    The low power winner with the changeable winner for me has always been the Leupold 1.5-5 scopes, the light can make the reticle change from silver to gold. Nobody advertises this but I have see this happen hundreds of times when the sun is just coming up or going down. It keeps on being my main scope for many years. I should brake down and try one on one of my many flat-top AR's, I really think it may be the perfect scope for and AR. Any way that's just my two cents on the subject.
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