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    Default where to camp in Kodiak

    last years trip was counseled but this year I am heading to Kodiak the first week of September to catch some Silvers look for deer and do some camping. I am wandering if some one has some info on other places to camp. I have a pop-up that I will be taking. I know the state parks but are there some private campgrounds that I have not found?

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    Buskin River or anywhere there is a pull off.
    I choose to fly fish, not because its easy, but because its hard.

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    You can camp pretty much anywhere. Just remember that recently a lot of land has been privatized to lesnoi and they are vigalante so if your camping on their land youll pay a fee. Also a lot of areas that used to be free to hunt are now lesnoi land so make sure you get some maps and know which land is which

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    Hah, what the f*** would you know about Kodiak???


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    Default Are you a veteran?

    If so, there is a dandy campground on the road system. Keyword search Kodiak Island VFW and you will find it.

    Buskin, Pasagshak, and Ft. Abercrombie are all state parks open for public use.

    There are lots of other free non-campground opportunities on the roadway system. Contact the Vistors Bureau to examine changes and what is up to date. ( http://www.kodiak.org)

    Great destination. I doubt if you will be dissapointed...

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    For those that helped me out thank you. The forum is for people that want to help and you did a good job.

    Hah, what the f*** would you know about Kodiak???

    danattherock, why do you post if all you want to do is blow hot air. It's a waste of my time to read your responses and a waste of your time to type it.
    You should ask your self what you know about Kodiak, must not be much if that is all you can come up with.

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    First of all, my gut instinct is telling me that danattherock was directing that comment at akpm - there's some history we need not delve into. Best just to ignore them all around.

    Ironically, akpm summed it up pretty nicely - It's pretty much been the case on Kodiak for some time that anywhere you can find to pull your camper off the road is a good spot to camp. As Bernard mentioned there's also abercrombie, buskin and pasagshak state parks - but it sounds like you're already all over that.

    Now as kodiak commando mentioned, Lesnoi Inc. (aka Woody Island Natives) have recently decided to mind that people use their land. Unfortunately, a lot of their land includes a lot of the road system. I don't know how, but supposedly there's a way to get an access permit (for some $$$).

    There are also several easements allowing public use on trails and some campgrounds (without paying the $$$). If you go to this website, there are several maps that show native (Lesnoi) properties, as well as public use easements for trails and campsites. It soundsl like you're planning to stay on the road system, in which case the Kodiak D2, C1, C2, C3, B1/B2 are where I'd start. As you'll see there are several "campsites" you could pull into.
    http://dnr.alaska.gov/mlw/planning/e...k/indexmap.htm

    The above map index is accessed through
    http://dnr.alaska.gov/mlw/planning/easmtatlas/kodiak/

    The good news is what's not native is almost all state land. There's of course some private in areas, but it's usually pretty obvious.

    Also, this website is a bit more advanced, but also has good info.
    http://sdms.ak.blm.gov/sdms/
    Click on SDMS Land & Resources Map Interface.
    Zoom in on Kodiak.
    On the right hand side, check "Village Lands" under Land Status. This turns on an overlay of native lands.
    Check one of the two "Quads" under Physical Land Features. This turns on the USGS map.
    Hit Refresh at the bottom.
    Play around - lots of good info through the map interface.

    For what it's worth regarding the Lesnoi property, you could probably try to sneak by here and there - but getting caught and forced to pay may tarnish your trip a bit. Something to keep in mind.

    Honestly if it were me, I'd pretty much be camped out near Pasagshak somewhere just about every night. Just stunningly beautiful. And you're south of the native land.

    Good luck with planning your trip and ask more questions if you have them.
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    Little Dave,

    Good recommendations by most of the posts, and the camps mentioned each have their own beauty. Don't forget to come prepared to properly handle your food and trash. Bears visit the campgrounds too.

    Shucks, I live about 1/2 mile outside the city limits and a bear left a big warm deposit in my walkway that goes down to my fire pit. Rude neighbor!

    Enjoy your visit.

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    Thanks I will be looking into those sites more tomorrow

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    I think dantherock was being sarcastic towards me ( hence the green smiley face) and didn't mean any harm, just being a smartass in a friendly way.

    I hope he wasn't being serious towards akpm becauses althought i disagree with akpm frequently he has spend time on the kodiak road sytem and his post is pretty dead on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak Commando View Post

    I think dantherock was being sarcastic ... just being a smartass in a friendly way.

    I hope he wasn't being serious towards akpm...

    And you would be right on both of course




    Dave,


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    Nigerian adults may wink to signal children to leave the room[3][6].

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    Default Right place/Right time

    I have been in numerous locations on the American River in Kodiak chasing fish when Sitka deer have presented themselves as targets.

    Many locals take advantage of the season and surf and turf through their island days.

    Kodiak is a great location to double your fun; several years ago I advised a MI fisherman/hunter to give it a try and he scored on both...

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    Quote Originally Posted by danattherock View Post
    And you would be right on both of course


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    Well if you want to get technical, Dan... you're first post wasn't a wink. More of a big grin. Which could be construed to be an evil big grin.

    As for akpm's post... I guess I just assumed you'd been hanging around your boyfriend chuck too much and that friendly feud was rubbing off on you. Speaking of which...never mind...that's going too far.
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    One thing to watrch out for on the BLM SDMS site is it is all raster data to the section level.
    What that means is if they has transfered ANY part of a section to state, or native corp. it will show the entire section as having been transfered.

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    OK, OK, I apologize for the jump to conclusion; I did not see the smiley face.

    thanks for the help. I have looked at the web sites and appreciate it vary much.

    I like the idea of looking for some deer wile there. does anyone know where to start walking from the rd. Looks like there is a trail on the far side of the beach that goes into the mt at Pasagshak is that open to the public?

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    There are lots of good trails that u can ask about at a place like macks.

    However they are good for a reason, lots of people hunt them!

    The good news is most people wait till october because of the thinned out brush and the deer move to lower elevations.

    August and early september deer hunting here involve 2 things that can suck to varying degrees depending on what kind of shape you are in, lots of bushwacking ( even on some of the better trails) and getting up high. Most deer that part of year are in the same areas as mountain goats especially if it's hot and/or the bugs are bad.

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    Thanks I dont mind a long hike

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    Anyone else got any ideas? Surely there is more places to camp on an island this size. If you don't want to share here, shoot little dave a PM.
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    Anyone else got any ideas? Surely there is more places to camp on an island this size. If you don't want to share here, shoot little dave a PM.
    Yeah the island is big but seems like little dave is talking about the road sytem which is where 95 percent of the people live but only covers 5 percent of the island. The furthest the road goes from town is south and it's about 41 miles and to the north half that. anywhere off the road system involves a boat or plane

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    Default Gettin Tricky ?

    I honestly don't know about this, I posted an update on the Leisnoi position a few days back from the Kodiak Daily Mirror (it's not a pretty read, titles "Kodiak Access update on Leisnoi)and it looks like it's gettin tricky to just pull over. Otherwise I would say just anywhere you want with your pop-up camper, be cool with your fire pit and you're good to go...but these days???

    I camp on the boat which gives full access to anywhere so don't have a good answer to help this guy out. Others have been mentioned, Buskin River, looks good (do they have to pay now?) there are a lot of pull over areas and I have a feeling you could get away with camping anywhere but maybe you could call F&G in town and see what they say

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