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    Default Obama Administration to regulate Sport Fishing

    The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters.
    This announcement comes at the time when the situation supposedly still is "fluid" and the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force still hasn't issued its final report on zoning uses of these waters.
    That's a disappointment, but not really a surprise for fishing industry insiders who have negotiated for months with officials at the Council on Environmental Quality and bureaucrats on the task force. These angling advocates have come to suspect that public input into the process was a charade from the beginning.
    "When the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) completed their successful campaign to convince the Ontario government to end one of the best scientifically managed big game hunts in North America (spring bear), the results of their agenda had severe economic impacts on small family businesses and the tourism economy of communities across northern and central Ontario," said Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs for Shimano."Now we see NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access in America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other Big Green anti-use organizations, through an Executive Order by the President. The current U.S. direction with fishing is a direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting: The negative economic impacts on hard working American families and small businesses are being ignored. ***SNIP***


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    And this surprises you why? Obama has been marching staight towards a socialist America since he was elected to public office. He is one of the most liberal people in government. This is just one more step in his plan, along with most of the other democrats, for a complete government takeover. I really can't understand why people think he is a good president or why they voted for him in the first place. Just one more case of people not researching the candidates. They just take them for face value. He has done more to errode our Constitution than anyone in history. He just uses is Executive Order power to bypass Congress. Way to go Checks and Balances! Man I hope this guy loses the next election in a landslide and whoever gets elected repeals a lot of his nonsensicle bills.
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    It's been going on for awhile now. Look at the current "control" they are taking over guided saltwater sportfishing in SE Alaska.

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    Doesn't he have enough problems to take care of without this?
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    This topic gentlemen refers to fishing so I am going to let it run for a bit to see where it heads. If it turns political in nature and drifts from the main issue of "fishing" it just may disappear. So lets try to keep it on the topic guys, OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveinthebush View Post
    This topic gentlemen refers to fishing so I am going to let it run for a bit to see where it heads. If it turns political in nature and drifts from the main issue of "fishing" it just may disappear. So lets try to keep it on the topic guys, OK?
    If you're gonna blame anyone for making "Fishing" political, blame the Administration, and it's allies. If they go through with what it appears they're considering then you might as well scrub the whole subject of "Fishing" from the board.

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    Fishing is about the only thing in life I enjoy so the hopes of obtaining a fishing job looks like it's going right out the window. Add 1 more unemployed to the list.

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    Watch for the fallout from this for sportfishing AND commercial fishing.

    They will use the excuse of the "nice service" the comm guys providing healthy wild salmon for the massed to eradicate us sport guys first.

    Once we are gone they will get control of the comm guys too by hook or crook - perhaps get them in debt and then take control after they bail them out.

    The state has been right to fight the feds over regulating fishing all these years. The south eastern states in the lower 48 fought a war over this - it was called "states right" but many other states didn't understand back then. Now the truth is coming out - the feds want control of fisheries and everything else. BEWARE!
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    Default FOX???

    That ESPN article reads like it was written by Fox News.

    Here's a non-chicken-little article about the ESPN article and the issue at hand.

    http://www.examiner.com/x-37128-Char...to-ban-fishing

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    Default It is about state's rights

    Quote Originally Posted by tvfinak View Post
    Watch for the fallout from this for sportfishing AND commercial fishing.

    They will use the excuse of the "nice service" the comm guys providing healthy wild salmon for the massed to eradicate us sport guys first.

    Once we are gone they will get control of the comm guys too by hook or crook - perhaps get them in debt and then take control after they bail them out.

    The state has been right to fight the feds over regulating fishing all these years. The south eastern states in the lower 48 fought a war over this - it was called "states right" but many other states didn't understand back then. Now the truth is coming out - the feds want control of fisheries and everything else. BEWARE!
    It is time for crying bloody murder to our congressional delegation, and it may be approaching the time for mass civil disobedience.

    That is as politically neutral as I can keep it Dave.

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    Default As Bill Engvall would say...

    Yes...this really shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone who has watched fisheries policy in the last deacade or so.

    It started with some of the environmental groups pushing the concept of "marine protected areas" and initially just to prohibit trawling or commercial fishing. At first, recreational interests or other commercial groups that were not excluded (at the time) supported it...or were silent, because they thought they'd benefit from the exclusion of the other competing users.

    Well, now you're next. As Bill Engvall says, "Here's your sign..."

    By all means, this needs to be fought and stopped, but the support/silence in the past gave this the foothold it needed and now "they" are back for the rest of us.

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    Default this is not new to this administration

    Sports fishing has taken a back seat to commercial interests for years. Mix in the subsistence issue, and you are in a real mess.

    No need to politicize a fishing forum.

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    Well the problem is identified.

    Now what we need is maybe someone to post the information pertaining as to whom to write to in an effort to stop this. Congressional candidates, congressional departments, governors. Maybe if someone has a sample letter format for those that have never written our representatives so at least they can do it correctly. We can complain here all we want but we are only singing to the choir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRFISH View Post
    Yes...this really shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone who has watched fisheries policy in the last deacade or so.

    It started with some of the environmental groups pushing the concept of "marine protected areas" and initially just to prohibit trawling or commercial fishing. At first, recreational interests or other commercial groups that were not excluded (at the time) supported it...or were silent, because they thought they'd benefit from the exclusion of the other competing users.

    Well, now you're next. As Bill Engvall says, "Here's your sign..."

    By all means, this needs to be fought and stopped, but the support/silence in the past gave this the foothold it needed and now "they" are back for the rest of us.
    Sometimes Americans are real slow at taking threats to their freedom as serious. Nevertheless we have turned things around many times at the grassroots level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveinthebush View Post
    Well the problem is identified.

    Now what we need is maybe someone to post the information pertaining as to whom to write to in an effort to stop this. Congressional candidates, congressional departments, governors. Maybe if someone has a sample letter format for those that have never written our representatives so at least they can do it correctly. We can complain here all we want but we are only singing to the choir.
    Dave, thanks for focusing the discussion. I'd say that the Secretary of Commerce (Gary Locke) and Dr. Jane Lubchenco, the Administrator for NOAA Fisheries (aka: National Marine Fisheries Service). And, of course, the White House itself. Our Congressional delegation is important to directly correspond with, and certainly to be included as a "cc" on other letters.

    I'll try to look tonight at the older public notice on this "plan" and see if there are other important contact points.

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    It really doesn't matter who you write to or call. This administration could care less what we think or the congressmen/women that represent us think. Just look at health care. The vast majority of Americans don't want the new bill, but Obama in his infinite ultra-left-wing agenda, is trying to railroad it through. I'd be all for signing a petition, or call my congressional leaders if that's what people want to do here. Maybe it will make a difference on this issue, but with the nut job liberals in power, I don't know if they will even listen.
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    Yes, and it reads like something out of Orwell's 1984. It recommends creating a HUGE FEDERAL Bureaucracy to manage all possible HUMAN impacts on the ocean. BTW, not one mention of States or the Constitution.

    It's one thing to create laws, it a whole other to enforce them.

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    I can't believe all of you guys wanting to partake of the kings salmon.... <grin>

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