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    Default Bone crushing middle bore

    Good title to this Shooting Times magazine article by Greg Rodriguez

    The .35 HCR Is One Bone-Crushing Middle-Bore

    http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunit...e35hcr_200906/

    35-338 Win Mag was my first consideration prior to having my 358 NM built, bet a bunch of hunters considered it as well.
    I know of a better cartridge design than the one that is being promoted in this article, and it was designed by an Alaskan.

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    Good title to this Shooting Times magazine article by Greg Rodriguez

    The .35 HCR Is One Bone-Crushing Middle-Bore

    http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunit...e35hcr_200906/

    35-338 Win Mag was my first consideration prior to having my 358 NM built, bet a bunch of hunters considered it as well.
    I know of a better cartridge design than the one that is being promoted in this article, and it was designed by an Alaskan.

    I still don't get how that is not a .358 Norma with a different headstamp.

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    Would be nice to compare the 358 NM and the 35 HCR dimensionally and see what the slight differences are between the two.

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    The author openly says he has come to call the 35-338 the 35HCR. So, they are the same thing.

    Accurate powder considers that 358 Norma to be the virtual twin to the 35-338. http://www.accuratepowder.com/data/P...page%20318.pdf

    I'm still looking for the dimensions on the 35-338
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    Thanks AKDoug to the link to the previous discussion on the cartridge. Please do post the comparative dimension differences if you are able to locate them. Would be interesting to see.

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    We had a pretty good discusion about this last year in a .358NM thread. There is a little 35-338 info in there and infor about why you shouldn't build 358NM from from 338 brass. Still looking for 35-358 info, but I can assume that it's shoulder is about .040" lower than that of the .358NM.
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    I just checked and I believe you are referring to post #30 on the 358 Norma Magnum rifle thread.

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    The base to shoulder is .040 longer on the 358NM than the 35/338. The 358NM would seem to be the better choice as dies may be cheaper and easier to find and cases can easily be made from 300WM. And you get a little more powder space. 300WM cases are usually easier to find than 338WM and you don't end up with the really short neck. Although I'm fond of the 358N, the 35/300WM would make more sense if you going to go wildcat as it's even bigger yet.

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    If I were going to wildcat I'd go for the .358 Nukalpiaq
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    Good choice AKDoug.

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    I don't know about that as I have a couple of thousands once fired .300WM cases. I know for a fact I would like to see them turned into .358NM cases than anything else. At least that rifle would see some use. My Mauser .300WM sees none at all.

    I never thought that brass would see any use at all. I have no use what so ever for a .338 WM as I hate my rifles in that caliber tend to butcher me. Maybe with a bunch of ammo for the .358 NM I could pedal that rifle I never shoot anyway. Besides it's not a collectible pre-64 M-70 like the .338WM are.


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    Big Al ,Sounds like you have enough once fired brass to keep a 35 cal Bone-Crusher fed for a while.

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    Enought to wear out a bore that is for sure.
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    I have 3 factory .358 Norma Magnum Rifles: A Husqvarna, a Schultz-Larsen...and a Kongsberg 393 (Norwegian Rifle). I took the Husqvarna
    to Africa...one rifle only & shot a huge Bull Cape Eland, 2 Oryx, Hartman's Mountain Zebra, Impala, Red Hartebeest, Blesbok...they all fell
    right away...a very effective cartidge...like Layne Simpson once said with the .358 Norma Magnum..."things stop happening fast". Yes
    indeed! I used 250 gr. Norma Oryx bullets. Charles Cottar in Africa shot all big game with his "big .35 Newton" which is about the same
    power or a little more than the .358 Norma Magnum. I have one of those too. As you can see, I'm a great fan of the .358 Norma Magnum
    & see no reason to go with the .35 HCR...not a dimes worth of difference between the .358 Norma magnum, the only advantage might be using the easily obtained .338 Winmag brass. In fact, I think the .358 Norma Magnum is better than the .375 H&H...flatter shooting, more velocity, more penetration & can use the same weight bullets with better sectional density.
    Now there is .35 Newton brass available...but costly...
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    And here I thought my 416 Taylor was a bone crushing middle-bore..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Float Pilot View Post
    And here I thought my 416 Taylor was a bone crushing middle-bore..
    If it starts with .4 that's a big bore in my book.

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    I have a 350 Jamison, it is a 404 Jefferies necked down to 35 cal. it shoots a 250 gr bullet, and it crushes on both ends.

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    bone crushers don't need to be fast or even bigger than a 375, a 300 savage with a 220 grain buster, or solid with in its range will bust down anything.

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    Originally Posted by Float Pilot
    And here I thought my 416 Taylor was a bone crushing middle-bore..



    If it starts with .4 that's a big bore in my book.
    Naw, 45 and above,,, maybe....


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