I picked up a few boxes of federal power shock in 45/70 on sale at a local store last time I flew into town. I just opened the first box... what a disappointment. they were supposed to be loaded with 300 grain speer soft points. I figured these would make a great deer load or for the boy to burn op on paper and a cheep source of Brass. When I looked inside the box 2 of them were shorter than the others. they were loaded with some real light weight hollow points that were loose in the brass.