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    I'm peddling as fast as I can and simply can not make enough on one income to pay rent on a regular place and save any money for my very own cabin in the woods. So, we're moving to a waterless cabin. The one I found is pretty cute. I'm going on Monday to turn in the application. I had a friend that had a shower stall drained outside, and a pump that she could put in a bucket of warm water for her showers. Anyone know of anywhere I could get one of those pumps?
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    This might be what your need. Don't know this person, just read the ad the other day. Though about one for the wife while camping.

    http://fairbanks.craigslist.org/spo/1602754749.html

    Used one like this when I was in Iraq, just drop the pickup in a bucket of warm water.
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    A friend of mine joined a gym. He got in shape, and stayed clean. He packed water for dishes/coffee etc.

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    We were waterless the summer before last and got a pass for the pool...Louis
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    Harbor freight sells servicable stuff for low prices. the quality is probably not as high as other places, but the prices are low. I don't know how much shipping would be. If it is not going to be a permanent addition it might be worth a look. http://harborfreight.com/ or their pumps are at http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...=651&pricetype=
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    What I did for us was to take an old coffee urn held about 3 gallons of water , got it from the thrift store . we'd heat it up on the wood stove and I had a pulley afair to lift it over head and a hose from the spigot with it's own valve. As time went by I built a shop above the cabin and in the up stairs of the shop I put a water tank and ran some pvc pipe to the house and set up an old 10 galllon water heater tank (w/o the jacket) in a glass cabinet for solar and vola the gravity system worked very nicely .
    I had an other water tank in the truck I would fill in town or from streams and when I got home charge it with air pressure pushin that water into the plumbing which filled the upper tank in the shop. the over flow hose on that tank ws also it's breather and my indicator that it was full.
    We used that system till we moved for about 4 years.
    Give me an idea of what you have to work with , and maybe I can come up with some suggestions for you.

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    i bought a place that later burned down, but it had a water tank that would freeze, so i put a 35 gal plastic trash can next to the on demand water heater, and a 12 volt RV pump with a line run to the shower stall. we could carry water to or melt snow, or catch rain water when the out door tank run dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arleigh View Post
    I had an other water tank in the truck I would fill in town or from streams and when I got home charge it with air pressure pushin that water into the plumbing which filled the upper tank in the shop. the over flow hose on that tank ws also it's breather and my indicator that it was full.
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    I'm thinking of a simple pump with the intake to be put in a 5 gallon bucket of warm water, a small washtub to stand in, surrounded by a shower curtain. I don't really want a battery operated pump though those seem handy. I'll have electric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stimestar View Post
    Pure genious!

    I'm thinking of a simple pump with the intake to be put in a 5 gallon bucket of warm water, a small washtub to stand in, surrounded by a shower curtain. I don't really want a battery operated pump though those seem handy. I'll have electric.

    I had the shock of my life, taking a shower with an AC driven water pump while in Iraq. Water and electricity can be deadly. Hard to beat gravity and DC, when water is involved.
    If I used an AC pump it would be to pump water up into an holding tank, then let gravity do the work.

    While in Iraq, we also modified old metal garden sprayers for showers. Change out the hose and install a small valve and head, fill with warm water, pump and shower. Nothing involved but people power. The metal sprayer and be left on the wood stove to warm.

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    Oh yea, that's a good point Steve. The cabin I am trying to get has a loft so guess I could bring a bucket up there and gravity feed to downstairs. Guess I am just thinking what a pain in the back it's going to be to haul the water up. I don't have an air compressor anymore to force it up like previous poster.
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    On thinking more, how about a 5 gallon bucket with a spigot. From the spigot would come the shower hose with an on/off valve at the shower head. I could put the bucket upstairs, fill with water, go stand under the shower head and turn it on. Do they sell buckets with spigots on the bottom or would I have to make my own. I have visions of silicone leaking...
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    Found one at a most unlikely place. I imagine if they make them for beer, they could make them for showers.
    https://morebeer.com/view_product/16591
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    I really appriciate the brainstorming going on here. We had an outhouse when I was a teenager, but we had a 500 gallon water tank in the back of the truck that we would run a hose into the bathroom for baths.
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    Default Zodi propane hot shower.......

    ....bought this model: http://www.zodi.com/web-content/Cons...emeshower.html

    Pretty nice model, has temp gauge on outside which is nice to have. Supposed to heat with propane but we just put on top of wood stove to save on propane. It says a few pumps will last whole shower but that is a lie. You do have to pump pretty often to keep pressure going but hey it works and it ain't that hard to pump. Just a temp. measure until I get a proper water system up and working. Just built cabin so one step at a time.......
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    Don't know what you have for access to auctions or other yard sale or maybe estate auctions, but one of my brothers lives in Idaho and brews beer. He found a lot of his stuff at various auctions in the area. Somthing that would work even better for you than a bucket with a spigot would be a keg with a spigot. He found a couple of them really cheap that he put a spigot into for mashing and other steps he does in the brewing process. He puts them on top of a gas burner fed by propane, and you could rig up some kind of burner to warm the water in place if that was your desire. If not, you could still carry warm water up stairs and pour it into the keg. The volume would be greater than what you're talking about, but you wouldn't have to fill it all the time if you didn't want to do so. Adding a spigot using rubber gaskets would be simple. Agree, silicone sealant may not be as reliable as a rubber gasket like you see on garden hoses.

    Another option is one we used for carrying water in a truck to dry areas on a hunt. They are the big blue plastic water drums. I won't bother you with how we set these up since it doesn't really apply to your dilemna, but a plastic drum is relatively light, good volume for water, but you couldn't put a burner under it for heating the water.

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    this might work for you, offers cold, warm, and hot water options.
    http://www.coleman.com/coleman/video...=74237&store=3

    interesting options here
    http://hotcampshowers.com/home

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    Default I had rigged a pulley just above

    Just enough to be over head and it worked just fine . for that matter. you could have it raised and a small rope on one side of the bucket with a set of small holes in the rim just large enough to dispence the water as you like it, and then by pulling it at that rim you control the flow. very simple no hose .

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    Ok so how about emptying the washtub? Yea I can just dump it out in the woods but I can visualize a big frozen ice slick in the winter and nasty smelling swamp in the summer. Since at first this will just be a rental, it's not like I can put in any type of drainage system.
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    We used a 12v RV pump like vince mentioned. We put it in the sauna with a hose to a shower head near the woodstove, and ran the wires from the pump out the door with alligator clips on the ends. Just pull the truck up to the sauna and clip the pump wires to the truck battery. Worked pretty slick...

    We buried a 55 gallon plastic drum with holes drilled in it next to the sauna. The top of the barrel was only 12" below ground and we never had freezing problems...should have but didnt... we just dug a 3' diameter hole about 5' deep, dropped in the barrel and filled around it with gravel, then ran the drain pipe in the top...worked good for a temporary drain...

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    What about a barrel/fuel pump to get the water up stairs??? People power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billhicksmostfunny View Post
    ....bought this model: http://www.zodi.com/web-content/Cons...emeshower.html

    Pretty nice model, has temp gauge on outside which is nice to have. Supposed to heat with propane but we just put on top of wood stove to save on propane. It says a few pumps will last whole shower but that is a lie. You do have to pump pretty often to keep pressure going but hey it works and it ain't that hard to pump. Just a temp. measure until I get a proper water system up and working. Just built cabin so one step at a time.......
    There is a guy locally that sells these. I think he lives in eagle river. I wish I still had his card.
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