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    Default 3 Charged in Caribou Killings

    http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/rural/story/1112984.html

    Here is the link to the daily fish wrap read on it


    From the names it looks like they are nice Russian folks too
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    oh oh this one should be interesting....
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    The cow caribou must have been diseased, that explains why it was left.

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    I know Im not a regular in the hunting thread but I thought you guys might like to see this one and see how it turns out
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    Default Lets watch this one.

    Maybe they are indigenous Russians and can use the same excuse as the Pt. Hopers did. In either case, it will be interesting to watch.

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    Wish we could send 'em back to mother russia...theres way too much of that crap out of those Delta russians. Theres a few in Willow I'd like to see fish and game pop too. They got no respect for anyone or anything, IMO.

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    Have their Elders been accused yet?

    Are the Feds involved?

    Is there gonna be a cover up??

    Did they shoot from the Grassy Knoll???

    Are they gonna get away with it ???



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    Default half looked diseased

    And the price of a bucket of wings at KFC just doubled too.

    Turns out KFC now has a policy of leaving the right wings on the carcass and disposing of them since they all look diseased. KFC only sees the value of the left ones now.

    With KFCs new policy, it takes twice as many chickens now to make a bucket, thus the price change.

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    How many Boo and moose do you need?? This is sensless to the extreme.

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    Default hold on now

    rumor has it that those bou had 5 legs, 4 ears, and were foaming at the mouth, I think they did us a favor

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    Quote Originally Posted by akguy454 View Post
    rumor has it that those bou had 5 legs, 4 ears, and were foaming at the mouth, I think they did us a favor

    BOU not your ex's bro.....


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    Default Curious

    How many caribou would they have legally been allowed had they been in the federal subsistence area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post
    How many caribou would they have legally been allowed had they been in the federal subsistence area?
    depends on the hunt... but up to two per year
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    15 per day up in unit 23.........
    Cows would be the preferrd catch at that right now....idjits tossed the good one.....nice and fat.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by strangerinastrangeland View Post
    15 per day up in unit 23.........
    Cows would be the preferrd catch at that right now....idjits tossed the good one.....nice and fat.......
    well Chip ... slightly different down this way...

    only allowed bulls in the unit 13 Nelchina herd.

    Units 13 and 13b Subsistence Harvest seasons:
    Moose: August 1 - September 20.
    Caribou: August 10 - September 30 and
    October 21 - March 31.


    Federal Subsistence Caribou Harvest is limited to Bulls only in unit 13 for the 2009-2010 regulatory season.

    Federal Subsistence permits are available to eligibile applicants during regular business or specified hours at the following locations:
    • Glennallen Field Office at mile 186.5 Glenn Highway, Glennallen
    • Fairbanks District Office at 1150 University Avenue, Fairbanks
    • National Park Service Offices at:
      •Slana Ranger Station
      •Denali
    • Delta Junction Career Advancement Center July 23 & 24, 8:30 a.m. - 6 p.m. and July 25, 8:30 a.m. - noon only.
    All applicants must provide the following to qualify for this subsistence hunt:
    1. State of Alaska drivers license or photo ID.
    2. Current valid State of Alaska resident hunting license.
    3. at least one of the following forms of official documentation linking you to your physical address:
      1. Voter registration card
      2. Electric or Utility bill (provided that is lists your physical address)
      3. PFD documentation
      4. Tax documentation
      5. Rental or lease agreement
      6. Documentation of stored household goods.
    4. Appliants may prove rural residency with signed affidavidt provided by another qualified hunter.
    5. Vehicle registration is no longer accepted as proof of rural residency.
    Minor children 16 and younger, must bring with them proof of completing hunter safety certification. Parents or Legal Guardians signature will be required to permit minor children.


    http://alaska.fws.gov/asm/pdf/wildregs/unit13.pdf
    [QUOTE][
    Units 13A and 13D—Rural residents of
    Units 11, 12 (along the Nabesna Road), 13,
    and Chickaloon
    Unit 13B—Rural residents of Units 11, 12
    (along the Nabesna Road), 13, 20D (except
    Fort Greely), and Chickaloon
    Unit 13C—Rural residents of Units 11, 12
    (along the Nabesna Road), 13, Chickaloon,
    Dot Lake, and Healy Lake



    Units 13A and 13B—2 caribou by Federal registration
    permit only. The sex of animals that may be
    taken will be announced by the BLM Glennallen
    Field Office Manager in consultation with the
    ADF&G Area Biologist and Chairs of the Eastern
    Interior Alaska Subsistence Regional Advisory
    Council and the Southcentral Alaska Subsistence
    Regional Advisory Council.
    Aug. 10–Sept. 30
    Oct. 21–Mar. 31
    Unit 13E—Rural residents of Units 11, 12
    (along the Nabesna Road), 13, Chickaloon,
    McKinley Village, and the area between
    mileposts 216–239 of the Parks Highway.
    No subsistence priority for the residents of
    Denali National Park headquarters
    Federal permits (including designated hunter
    permits) are available from the BLM office in
    Glennallen; Denali National Park offices in
    Denali Park (for hunting in the park only), and
    Wrangell-St. Elias National Park offices in
    Copper Center or Slana (for hunting in the park
    only). (See directory at the end of this book for
    addresses.)
    • Unit 13 remainder—2 bulls by Federal registration
    permit only.
    Hunting within the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline
    right-of-way is prohibited. The right-of-way is
    identified as the area occupied by the pipeline
    (buried or above ground) and cleared area 25 feet
    on either side of the pipeline.
    Aug. 10–Sept. 30
    Oct. 21–Mar. 31
    GOAT
    Unit 13D—No Federal subsistence
    priority
    Unit 13 remainder—All rural residents

    No Federal open
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    Quote Originally Posted by strangerinastrangeland View Post
    Have their Elders been accused yet?

    Are the Feds involved?
    Yeppppppp

    Is there gonna be a cover up??
    Yeppppppp

    Did they shoot from the Grassy Knoll???
    Yeppppppp at least 12 times

    Are they gonna get away with it ???
    Pretty much. And free lawyers to boot.

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    This will be interesting to see how it shakes out. I am not holding my breath. After the Pt. Hope deal, how can a judge pass a harsh judgement? A precedent has been set in the State of Alaska with the Pt. Hope case. I guess we will see how "good" the justice system really is!

    As for the comment wondering why these guys needed so many caribou when there were only three of them hunting...take a trip to Delta Junction and check out the Russian "Community". With minimum of twelve PFD recieving children for every couple, one does not have to wonder long why they would need so many caribou.

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    Maybe they have better proof this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo Will View Post
    Maybe they have better proof this time
    Amigo, I bet you are right on this one. My guess is these guys WILL get harsh punishment. There also should be very little politics involved with this case as it is not dealing with native subsistance rights and privilages. There also are some folks in the Delta area who are not overly fond of the Russian community so I doubt there will be a "legal fund" from community at large. It sounds like the Troopers got a lot of evidence and busted these guys pretty squarely. But again, we won't know until sentences are handed down.

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