On another thread I mentioned Mossberg and someone took exception to the location of my comment. So I thought I would open a new thread and see what happens.
I despise Mossberg for several different reasons but the politics and concern for customers is enough for me to stay completely away from the company. In 1996 Buck McNeeley on his show was shooting at a trap range with his sponsored Mossberg shotgun. There were repeated safety violations and general garbage in his show, but at one point he is holding the shotgun by the toe of the stock in his palm with the muzzle rsting on the concrete pad. He then proceeded to twirl said shotgun on the concrete while yammering away.
I sent a letter to Mossberg stating their sponsorship was not a good plan and listed a number of things Buck had done. They never responded in any way.
A month or so later Buck was arrested for shooting caribou, same day airborne, here in AK. He was never prosecuted in AK, just answered the Federal complaint and is now back on the air. Savage was sponsoring him for a while after his return, but I have no idea if Mossberg has sponsored him since his conviction and I do not know if Savage still is sponsoring his show.
Anyway, after his arrest there were several more shows of his on with Mossberg as a sponsor. I wrote another letter to Mossberg and it too went unanswered. I have written to most manufacturers about many issues over the years and Mossberg is the only company that has not responded promptly. Frequently the response has been a head-shaker, but the response was a start.
That is enough for me to unequivocably refuse to have anything to do with mossberg, even if their guns were not garbage.
The 100ATR bolt has been the subject of a number of catastrophic failures. Savage uses a similar system but has better quality control and parts. Anyway, the pin holding the bolt head on has been known to break. The shooter is not aware the lugs have not rotated into battery and when shot the bolt can come back with serious force. Faces and hands have been lost.
The ATR is the old Raptor and it has a long history of failures. There are plenty of other issues with the ATR in general and Mossberg bolt actions in specific, but that is enough for me to stay completely away from all Mossberg products.
Their pump shotguns are not in the same league with other brands for relaibility or handling. I currently have pumps from Browning, Remington, Ithaca, and High Standard. I have had a number of Mossbergs including the 500 and some of almost all makers. I am not guessing about what they are like. I have had fairly good results with most makers. An 870 I still have broke a firing pin in the area relieved for the retainer pin. Every once in a while it would have a light primer strike and a failure to fire. By the time I found the source of the problem the pin ends were peened to the point it had stopped having the occasional failure. I have also had stops that had not been staked properly (my fault) come out and cause a jam. After many, many thousands of rounds that shotgun is still going strong.
My first shotgun was a Mossberg and I used it for quite a few years...
Mossberg replaced the bolt on a 500 because it was cracked. They replaced a new coated special edition which I believe was a 535(?) because the finish was only covering about 90% of the metal. I have repaired a bunch of Mossbergs with function issues and now refuse to do any more. With significantly less history I have seen more problems with Mossbergs.
So my point is not to just bad-mouth Mossberg or make anyone feel badly about their guns. My point is to inform on real issues with Mossberg, the company, and Mossberg firearms.
From the serious standpoint I would not consider shooting an ATR from my shoulder, period.
I suspect some will take exception to my comments and I apologize in advance for hurt feelers, but these are not little things to me and it would take a lot for Mossberg to come around.