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    I have used several different RL powders in several different calibers and I do not have a gun that will shot the best group with RL powder. I have had groups with RL powder in about all my guns that would be plenty good enough to hunt with but I can use another powder and shrink the group just a little more. I use Federal 210 primers in my large riffle and Federal 215 primers in my magnum rifles. Would a different primer work better with RL powder.

    I am not saying anything bad about RL powder I just can't find the right combination. I know that it is good powder because too many people are using it. It is talked about on this forum about being several peoples favorite powder. I have tried it in 243 Win, 6mm Rem, 270 Win, 7mm Rem, and 7mm STW. I have tried RL19, and RL22 in these calibers. If you are shooting your best group with one of these calibers and RL powder what primer are you using?

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    I exclusively use RL-15 for my .375H&H, and RL-22 for my .257WBY. Both of those are magnum rounds, so I use a CCI Magnum Rifle primer. The accuracy and consisency are truly outstanding with both of those loads.

    I've also used RL-15 for the .223 with good results as well, but not as good as some of the faster burning powders (H335, W780, even Varget). I've even used RL-15 in the .30-06 with a standard rifle primer with some excellent accuracy potential, but the consistency wasn't quite there (almost) to make it a keeper load. I've done better in the .30-06 using RL-19, but the 4350's are even better in my '06.

    So, I guess I'm saying that I have seen a similar pattern.

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    With RL17 I'm getting I am getting 1/2 MOA with my 25-06 out past 400 yds. It's a Sendero rifle so a lot of the accuracy may be the rilfe, but the RL 17 seems to shoot as well as any powder in my rifles. Like you say, if you try enough combos of bullets, primers, seating depth, etc., you should find something that works.

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    I use RL-22 and RL-19 in my most accurate 6.5x55 Swede Mauser loads.

    Then RL-7, RL-10x and RL-15 in my best 350 Remington Magnum loads.

    I am still playing with RL-25 and RL-17... but I have not found anything that they really shine at....yet.

    I obtain good velocities with less pressure signs using Reloader Powders...

    BUT... all my best loads are pretty sensitive to primer changes and even slight changes in powder charge.

    AND... I think that RL22 and RL19 are a little sensitive to changes in Temp. Even sitting in a hot chamber for 30 seconds can really change the velocity/ accuracy...
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    I like the RL line of powders. I have used 10X, 15, 19, 22 in 204, 223, 243, 270, 7mm, 308, 338 and 375. Most recently 17 in a 375 Ruger and 300WM. I'm currently tweaking RL-25 with a 300RUM and 338 Lapua with good results.

    As Float Pilot mentioned, I also think they are temperature sensitive. Luckily for you Alaskans developing loads in the summer at 50-60 and hunting in the fall at 35-40 your temperature spread is manageable.

    I developed my first 375 Ruger load with RL-15 in the heat of the summer down here in AZ around 100-110 then hunted in the fall in AK at 35-40. My groups were poor during sight in at my brothers place. The following trip I bumped my loads .3gr and got the load back in the sweet spot for my rifle.

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    I read several yrs ago RL powders do vary from lot to lot. If you bought some and it shot excellent write down the lot number on the can and run out and try to find the same lot number... Because the next jug of whatever RL you were using might shoot horrible. I did some load development for a 300 win mag in Arizona around 90 or so degrees headed to cooler climate of Oregon and that load that shot less than 1/2 in groups in Arizona opened up like a shotgun pattern in Oregon. So safe to say temp sensitve. But I have heard they got a handle on this and RL powder is much better than it was couple of yrs back. I have had good luck with RL 15 in 7mm-08... I have never been able to get RL-19 or 22 shoot with a hoot in my 338 win mag or 308 norma mag... In the 338 H-4350 shoots great and 308 norma mag I use H-4831. RL-19 does shot very well in my 6.5 swede though...

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    Default interesting...

    RL 22 is one of my better powders in my 2 338WM's.

    Here's my 2 loads:

    rem nickle cases trimmed to 4.494
    FED 215's
    225 nos partition seated to achieve max COAL
    72g RL 22 = 2650 fps and sub MOA groups to 400yds all day long (allowing for barrel cooling)
    74g RL 22 = 2745 fps and again, sub MOA groups to 400 yds.

    FWIW: I've switched to IMR 4350, everything else staying the same. More speed, same accuracy.

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    I have never been able to get RL-19 or 22 shoot with a hoot in my 338 win mag or 308 norma mag... ..

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    Thumbs up 338 Win

    with 338 win

    Reloader 19

    225 TSX @ 74.0
    225 Accubond @ 78.0

    Reloader 22

    250gr Accubond @ 74.0

    Fed 215GM primers
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    I have found that RL 17 really shines with 150gr TSX bullets in the 300 WSM. 3200 FPS

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    RL15 and RL22 are two of my favs, giving sub MOA accuracy in 308 and 6.5x55 with minimal lot to lot variation and good consistency year round.

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    I like many of Alliant's RL powders. I don't have anything that would use RL-7, and I prefer several ball powders over RL-10x, but otherwise the rest of the family has a place on my loading bench.

    I use RL-15 in my .223's (with heavier bullets), .22-250, 7mm-08, .338-06 and .375 H&H. RL-15 is an extruded powder, but the powder kernels are small enough that it meters pretty well in a powder measure. RL-15 is good stuff!

    I've been playing with RL-17 in my .25-284 and .280AI. I put together some .22-250AI loads with it, and I hope to test them this weekend. So far, RL-17 shows a lot of promise in both the accuracy and velocity department.

    I use RL-19 with the .25-284, .300 H&H and .300 Win Mag.

    I get great accuracy and velocity with RL-22 in my .280AI.

    And, finally, I prefer RL-25 in my .338 Edge.

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    I wish I could get the best loads for most of my guns using RL powders. I have two Wal-Marts within 20 miles or less of me and both of them carry RL powder. That would be handy with reloading stuff hard to get. I have been trying to get Federal 210 large rifle primers for about 2 months with no luck. It may get to the point where we will be glad to get anything to shoot insted of getting what shoots best. I have not give up on RL powder yet, I'll try it some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cast Iron View Post
    I wish I could get the best loads for most of my guns using RL powders. I have two Wal-Marts within 20 miles or less of me and both of them carry RL powder. That would be handy with reloading stuff hard to get. I have been trying to get Federal 210 large rifle primers for about 2 months with no luck. It may get to the point where we will be glad to get anything to shoot insted of getting what shoots best. I have not give up on RL powder yet, I'll try it some more.

    maybe the problem is the walmart powder
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    I've only used RL 7 and RL 15, and they've been excellent in the appropriate applications. In you're .243 I'd suggest RL 15 with 75gr and lighter bullets. The Fed 210 is my preferred std. large rifle primer.

    Can't help with the other applications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    maybe the problem is the walmart powder

    Yeah, can't you find a powder with the AFL-CIO approval stamp? That would make it more accurate.







    Sorry, my bad, just PR forum withdrawals.

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    Successful Reloader Powder hand-loads

    6.5x55mm
    RL-19, 46.5gr and a 129 grain SST bullet = 2,675 fps and 0.45 in grp from m/38
    RL-19, 46.0gr and a 120gr SMk = 2,750 and a 0.25 inch grp from CG-63
    RL-19, 46.5gr and a 120 Nolser Ball Tip = 2,720fps and a 0.350 in grp CG-63
    RL-22, 47.0gr and a 120gr Nolser Ball Tip = 2,749fps and a 0.28 in grp m/96
    RL-22, 46.3gr and a 140gr SMK, =2,729fps and a 0.68 in grp m/96 rifile
    RL-22, 46.0gr and a 160gr Hornady-RN=2,498 and a 0.75in grp m/38 rifle
    RL-25, 46.3gr and a 140 Nosler CompHPBT=2,480 fps and a 0.70in grp m/96

    30-06
    RL-19, 62.0gr and a 150gr SPBT=2,710 fps and a 1.0in grp Husqvarna L.W.
    RL-19, 56.9gr and a 190gr SPBT=2,540fps and a 1.5in grp Husky LW
    RL-22, 58.0gr and a 190gr Hornady SP=2,502fps and a 0.60in grp Husky LW
    RL-22. 59.0gr and 190gr SPBT, = 2,575fps w/mag primer=1.5in grp Husky

    300 Win Mag
    RL-22, 76.0gr and a 180gr Nolser BT=3,165fps & a 1.5 inch grp Rem m700
    RL-22, 74.0gr, & a 200gr SMK=2,900fps and a1.00 in grp m/700 rem

    338 Win Mag
    RL-19, 72.0gr & a 225gr Barnes =2,750 fps and a 0.75 inch grp rem 700

    350 Remington Magnum
    RL-10x, 57.0gr & a 200gr Barnes TSX= 2,905fps and a 1.2 in grp
    RL-15, 62.0gr & a 220 Speer= 2,840fps and a 0.05 in grp M77MKII Stainless
    RL-15, 62.0gr & a 225gr Sierra Game King= 2,829 fps and a 0.85in grp
    RL-15, 57.0gr and a 250gr Hornady RN= 2,440 fps and a 1.4in grp

    45-70 Govt
    RL-7, 44.0gr and a 405gr JSP=1,760fps and a1.5in grp Win 1886

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    I bought my RL powder at the gun shop before either Wal-Mart started selling reloading supplies. I have tried a few primers and muzzle loading caps from Wally World but will not again. Been buying primers from gun shop by the case (1000). They have been out the last few times I have been by there, but they had the Federal large riffle match primers. I thougth I had a few primers left and did not buy any. I went to load some 270 Win. and only had about 75 primers left. Now I am out but I will buy some the next visit to the gun shop. I was hoping to find Fed.210 and not have to buy the match primers because all my loads are with 210 primers and I am sure it will change them some.

    Akheloce what is the AFL-CIO approval stamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cast Iron View Post

    Akheloce what is the AFL-CIO approval stamp.

    lol, sorry, making a joke...wal-mart

    AFL-CIO is The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations

    It's a group of unions, like the UAW, Teamsters, IBEW... they are all members of the AFL-CIO, which of course hates Wal-Mart since they're not unionized. It's been a bit of a political football in recent years.

    IE: Buy Union Made for better powder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akheloce View Post
    IE: Buy Union Made for better powder
    Really?

    Which one is union made?

    I avoid Wally World because of the Chinese crap they sell and the fact that they run the small local businessman out of business.

    If anyone buys reloading supplies from Wally then that's just a nail in your local suppliers coffin. I would be willing to bet your local supplier doesn't employ union labor.

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    Again bad joke, not conveyed well online. I was comparing AFL-CIO and quality with absolute sarcasm. (not a big fan of unions) Ok, enough of the hijack, it was meant to be one lighthearted comment, but has taken too much of the thread..... sorry

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