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    Do I need an FFL to ship guns that I own from the lower 48 up to AK via UPS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wtrdog1 View Post
    Do I need an FFL to ship guns that I own from the lower 48 up to AK via UPS?
    Yes. Here's the info from the horse's mouth:

    http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/res.../firearms.html

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    Provided that you own the firearms and you are shipping them to yourself for a lawful purpose you can mail long guns. Priority mail would be cheaper than UPS. Handguns are not mailable except by licensed individuals.

    Check out B9:

    [18 U.S.C. 921(a)(32), 922(g)(8) and 925(a)(1)]

    (B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?

    A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
    [18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]

    (B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?

    A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

    (B9) May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?

    Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.

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    Thanks for the link, I did look at this before, but it still seems a bit ambiguous.

    "Use These UPS Services for Your Firearm Shipment UPS accepts packages containing firearms, as defined by Title 18, Chapter 44, and Title 26, Chapter 53 of the United States Code, for transportation from and between licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, and licensed collectors, as defined in Title 18, Chapter 44 of the United States Code, law enforcement agencies of the United States (or of any department or agency of the United States) and law enforcement agencies of any state or department agency (or political subdivision of any state), and from and between persons not otherwise prohibited from shipping firearms by federal, state or local law and when such shipment complies with all applicable federal, state and local laws applicable to the shipper, recipient and package."

    What does this refer to? I would assume those folks with a federal offense.

    I may be wrong, but this still seems unclear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wtrdog1 View Post
    . . . and from and between persons not otherwise prohibited from shipping firearms by federal, state or local law and when such shipment complies with all applicable federal, state and local laws applicable to the shipper, recipient and package."

    What does this refer to? I would assume those folks with a federal offense.

    I may be wrong, but this still seems unclear.
    Yes felons but also some states like MA or NY may have State or City laws about receiving firearms. Even then you should be good sending them out from there. Alaska has no State laws to hamper you receiving your own guns so the Fed is all that matters so just ship then from yourself to yourself by USPS except for handguns.

    Handguns can't be shipped by USPS unless they go from and to an FFL or to and from the manufacturer for repair work only. You can do from and to yourself by UPS/FedEx with handguns if you can find someone at UPS/FedEx that knows their own rules, just not USPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Cor15:19 View Post
    Yes. Here's the info from the horse's mouth:

    http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/res.../firearms.html
    That post was a real brain fart. I said yes when I meant to say NO YOU DO NOT NEED AN FFL TO SHIP A GUN TO YOURSELF. Sorry for disconnecting my brain from my typing; I am certain some of you would say this has not been the first time or in all likelihood the last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Cor15:19 View Post
    That post was a real brain fart. I said yes when I meant to say NO YOU DO NOT NEED AN FFL TO SHIP A GUN TO YOURSELF. Sorry for disconnecting my brain from my typing; I am certain some of you would say this has not been the first time or in all likelihood the last.
    I knew what you meant. I read it as; yes you can ship them yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADfields View Post
    I knew what you meant. I read it as; yes you can ship them yourself.
    Thanks for the patience AD, you seem to know I am still learning how to express myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wtrdog1 View Post
    Do I need an FFL to ship guns that I own from the lower 48 up to AK via UPS?
    A couple extra points... You literally have to be the one shipping the firearm to yourself. It is not legal to have a family member ship them to you with your return address.

    NJ and CA are the worst states about shipping and the ones requiring extra attention to state laws.

    Be very careful using the FAQ section on the BATFE site, as there are many errors that have been known and pointed out for several years and BATFE does not appear to want to fix them.

    USPS will save significant money over the other services and over the last 30 years as an FFL my worst nightmares have been with UPS. I have only had only one bad experience with a USPS gun shipment.
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    I do not know how United Parcel Service is in Alaska, but it has gone straight down the tubes here in Georgia. Suprisingly, UPS is based in Atlanta. Still doesn't seem to make them accurate or quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boliep View Post
    I do not know how United Parcel Service is in Alaska, but it has gone straight down the tubes here in Georgia. Suprisingly, UPS is based in Atlanta. Still doesn't seem to make them accurate or quick.
    Finding anyone with UPS that can get anything done about issues is virtually impossible. They do not want to help...
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