Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: free to good home wired haired pointing griffon

  1. #1
    Member Vince's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Fairbanks most the time, Ancorage some of the time,& on the road Kicking Anti's all the time
    Posts
    8,989

    Unhappy free to good home wired haired pointing griffon

    Andy needs a new home... I am at witts end ...

    he is a wonderful family dog. smart as a whip....LOVING LOVING DOG!

    he was 5 months old when we got him oct 2008.. i think he was wiened then and there

    he is not cut yet but has 100% vets up to date and is on PROZAK for his seperations anxiety,

    i have over 5K in the dog, and lots of time.. he is nearly OB trained.. retrieves well ... points like nobodys business...through the door at momma grouse even


    he NEEDS a women that can take him every where.. he can not be left in car unless crated.

    he is papered but have not transfered them he is not a breeding quality anyway..

    wife loves the dog,, i love the dog, kids love the dog.. were all gonna shoot him soon...

    I am searious...

    you need 10,00000000% patience he is a basket case

    i have never given a dog away.. i have always put them down.. he is that kind of sweet heart that i want to try..

    if interested call me...

    even the chessy knows this dog is off.. he just tried to eat him again...


    9788218 in the evenings PLEASE!!! i am really busy during the days this week.. and the only one in the office.

    phone says ak monitoring on it.. or pm me and leave me your number

    it is 7 30 tuesday the 5th... if not in a new home in 48 hours he wont need one

    Vince and family..
    "If you are on a continuous search to be offended, you will always find what you are looking for; even when it isn't there."

    meet on face book here

  2. #2
    Member Vince's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Fairbanks most the time, Ancorage some of the time,& on the road Kicking Anti's all the time
    Posts
    8,989

    Default

    i must add that part of the dogs problems currently is that mommas gone the kids have gone and come the baby is still gone.. he can not handle our back and forth with kids... he needs stability and attention.. he is NON aggresive in fact at 1.5 years old still pops his teeth in submission like a puppy

    our reading on this has led us to beleive the late weining is his issue leading to the speration issues..
    "If you are on a continuous search to be offended, you will always find what you are looking for; even when it isn't there."

    meet on face book here

  3. #3
    Member Vince's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Fairbanks most the time, Ancorage some of the time,& on the road Kicking Anti's all the time
    Posts
    8,989

    Default he will point retrive and work if you have the time to screw his head back on...

    Wirehaired Pointing Griffon Breed Standard

    Sporting Group

    General Appearance
    Medium sized, with a noble, square-shaped head, strong of limb, bred to cover all terrain encountered by the walking hunter. Movement showing an easy catlike gracefulness. Excels equally as a pointer in the field, or a retriever in the water. Coat is hard and coarse, never curly or woolly, with a thick undercoat of fine hair, giving an unkempt appearance. His easy trainability, devotion to family, and friendly temperament endear him to all. The nickname of "supreme gundog" is well earned.
    Size, Proportion, Substance
    Size--22 to 24 inches for males, 20 to 22 inches for females. Correct size is important. Oversize to be severely penalized. Proportion--Slightly longer than tall, in a ratio of 10 to 9. Height from withers to ground; length from point of shoulder to point of buttocks. The Griffon must not evolve towards a square conformation. Substance medium, reflecting his work as an all-terrain hunting dog.
    Head
    The head is to be in proportion to the overall dog. The skull is of medium width with equal length from nose to stop and from stop to occiput. The skull is slightly rounded on top, but from the side the muzzle and head are square. The stop and occiput are only slightly pronounced. The required abundant mustache and eyebrows contribute to the friendly expression. The eyes are large and well open, more rounded than elliptical. They have an alert, friendly, and intelligent expression. Eye color ranges in all shades of yellow and brown. Haws should not show nor should there be protruding eyes. The ears should be of medium size, lying flat and close to the head, set high, at the height of the eye line. Nose--Well open nostrils are essential. Nose color is always brown. Any other color is a disqualification. Bite scissors. Overshot or undershot bite is a serious fault.
    Neck, Topline, Body
    Neck-- rather long, slightly arched, no dewlap. Topline-- The back is strong and firm, descending in a gentle slope from the slightly higher withers to the base of the tail. Body-Chest-- The chest must descend to the level of the elbow, with a moderate spring of rib. The chest must neither be too wide nor too narrow, but of medium width to allow freedom of movement. The loin is strong and well developed, being of medium length. The croup and rump are stoutly made with adequate length to favor speed. The tail extends from the back in a continuation of the topline. It may be carried straight or raised slightly. It is docked by one-third to one-half length.
    Forequarters
    Shoulders are long, with good angulation, and well laid back. The forelegs are straight and vertical from the front and set well under the shoulder from the side. Pasterns are slightly sloping. Dewclaws should be removed. Feet are round, firm, with tightly closed webbed toes. Pads are thick.
    Hindquarters
    The thighs are long and well muscled. Angulation in balance with the front. The legs are vertical with the hocks turning neither in nor out. The stifle and hock joints are strong and well angulated. Feet as in front.
    Coat
    The coat is one of the distinguishing features of the breed. It is a double coat. The outer coat is medium length, straight and wiry, never curly or woolly. The harsh texture provides protection in rough cover. The obligatory undercoat consists of a fine, thick down, which provides insulation as well as water resistance. The undercoat is more or less abundant, depending upon the season, climate, and hormone cycle of the dog. It is usually lighter in color. The head is furnished with a prominent mustache and eyebrows. These required features are extensions of the undercoat, which gives the Griffon a somewhat untidy appearance. The hair covering the ears is fairly short and soft, mixed with longer harsh hair from the coat. The overall feel is much less wiry than the body. The legs, both front and rear, are covered with denser, shorter, and less coarse hair. The coat on the tail is the same as the body; any type of plume is prohibited. The breed should be exhibited in full body coat, not stripped short in pattern. Trimming and stripping are only allowed around the ears, top of head, cheeks and feet.
    Color
    Preferably steel gray with brown markings, frequently chestnut brown, or roan, white and brown; white and orange also acceptable. A uniformly brown coat, all white coat, or white and orange are less desirable. A black coat disqualifies.
    Gait
    Although close working, the Griffon should cover ground in an efficient, tireless manner. He is a medium-speed dog with perfect coordination between front and rear legs. At a trot, both front and rear legs tend to converge toward the center line of gravity. He shows good extension both front and rear. Viewed from the side, the topline is firm and parallel to the line of motion. A smooth, powerful ground-covering ability can be seen.
    Temperament
    The Griffon has a quick and intelligent mind and is easily trained. He is outgoing, shows a tremendous willingness to please and is trustworthy. He makes an excellent family dog as well as a meticulous hunting companion.
    Disqualifications
    Nose any color other than brown.
    Black coat.
    "If you are on a continuous search to be offended, you will always find what you are looking for; even when it isn't there."

    meet on face book here

  4. #4
    Member Huntress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Somewhere between here and there.....
    Posts
    1,173

    Default

    I have met this young dog personally, he is SO sweet! Was calm and welcoming with me as a stranger in his office, wanted nothing more than to be loved on.
    "In the interest of protecting my privacy I will no longer be accepting Private Messages generated from this site and if you email me, it better be good!"

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    118

    Default

    Vince,

    As another griff owner I am so sorry to hear about the problems you are having with your Andy. I hope you don't mind but I posted the link to your thread on a couple other versatile dog forums in hopes of you finding a suitable home for your dog in time.

    Regards,

    yhc

  6. #6
    New member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    1

    Default

    Vince, Please email me privately so I can get more information about your dog. I have applications from people looking to rescue dogs. griffs3@shentel.net

    Homer
    Wirehair Pointing Griffon Rescue coordinator
    AWPGA.com

  7. #7
    Member Vince's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Fairbanks most the time, Ancorage some of the time,& on the road Kicking Anti's all the time
    Posts
    8,989

    Default

    done thanks
    "If you are on a continuous search to be offended, you will always find what you are looking for; even when it isn't there."

    meet on face book here

  8. #8
    Member byrd_hntr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Squarebanks
    Posts
    661

    Default Pictures?

    Hey Vince,

    Do you have any pictures? Ill see what I can drum up.

  9. #9
    Member Vince's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Fairbanks most the time, Ancorage some of the time,& on the road Kicking Anti's all the time
    Posts
    8,989

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Mobley View Post
    Vince, Please email me privately so I can get more information about your dog. I have applications from people looking to rescue dogs. griffs3@shentel.net

    Homer
    Wirehair Pointing Griffon Rescue coordinator
    AWPGA.com

    homer thank you for the call this morning...

    as yourequested

    sire

    dynamo's hunter gr 001859

    dame
    grimm tails blue sky gr 002431

    NAVHDA regisrtation
    "If you are on a continuous search to be offended, you will always find what you are looking for; even when it isn't there."

    meet on face book here

  10. #10
    Member Vince's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Fairbanks most the time, Ancorage some of the time,& on the road Kicking Anti's all the time
    Posts
    8,989

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by byrd_hntr View Post
    Hey Vince,

    Do you have any pictures? Ill see what I can drum up.
    i dont have any current ones as he is just to beat up to photo graph... my photos are all in ID at the moment on the portable drive.

    i have talked to several breeders, rescues and trainers...


    many have seen a few dogs with these issues. they are all unsure of the cause whether it is late weening, bad blood supply in the womb, lack of air at birth or other.. all cases have come off the east coast.

    i guess i have a decision to make...

    he is a wonderful family dog loving and so very NON aggressive. one minute he is trained the next he has no idea who you are.. and is gone.
    we have chased him down in the car. had the neighbors drag him home or he suddenly gets a clue and is back at you at 200 miles an hour.

    the biggest problem is i can not lock him up as he will hurt himself trying to get out.. i can't chain him , and i can't kennel him with the other dogs that KNOW in their own dog way. there is something wrong with him and try to kill him.

    he has chewed through chain link fence to get out and cut his self all up. climbed he 7 foot fence, ripped nails off doing so and hurts himself going over. jumped over the 4 foot tall deck rail to the ground 8 foot below you name it.. all because he was separated from some one he wanted to be with.

    i cant keep him at the office he scares the clients when he flies at them happy to meet them or tears the door apart to get out of the spare room to meet them.. and i can't go home every night wondering if he is seriously injured or dead for the kids to find.

    i would like to find him a home that understands they are getting a dog with doggy downsyndrom or some thing wrong with him. not to be offensive to any one but that is the best way i can describe him... lovable but needs care.
    "If you are on a continuous search to be offended, you will always find what you are looking for; even when it isn't there."

    meet on face book here

  11. #11
    Member Huntress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Somewhere between here and there.....
    Posts
    1,173

    Default

    He's also a beautiful dog as far as Im concerned. I have met this boy. If I didn't already have my hands full with 3 he would be at my home.
    "In the interest of protecting my privacy I will no longer be accepting Private Messages generated from this site and if you email me, it better be good!"

  12. #12
    Member byrd_hntr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Squarebanks
    Posts
    661

    Default If...

    Vince,

    If I hadn't just been fortunate enough to pick up one of Fullkurl girffs I would definitely give Andy a try. Have you thought about possibly sending him to a pro to see what they can do? I know you already have a bunch of money into him but maybe separation from you might help. Sometimes a different perspective is needed to see the real problem. Good luck with this one I know its a hard decision.

    Heres a picture of my new Griff Logan.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    I'm going to ctrl-alt-delete you so hard your mama's computer is going to reboot.

  13. #13
    Member Vince's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Fairbanks most the time, Ancorage some of the time,& on the road Kicking Anti's all the time
    Posts
    8,989

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by byrd_hntr View Post
    Vince,

    If I hadn't just been fortunate enough to pick up one of Fullkurl girffs I would definitely give Andy a try. Have you thought about possibly sending him to a pro to see what they can do? I know you already have a bunch of money into him but maybe separation from you might help. Sometimes a different perspective is needed to see the real problem. Good luck with this one I know its a hard decision.

    Heres a picture of my new Griff Logan.
    Sepreation is the problem ... Franks got nice dogs i would definatly have the breed again.. The wife just talked to another breeder in twin falls ID south of Frank, and has the same comments about pups he has brought in from the east coast.. some just don't work out.


    we are still looking for a home for him.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    "If you are on a continuous search to be offended, you will always find what you are looking for; even when it isn't there."

    meet on face book here

  14. #14
    Moderator kingfisherktn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Ketchikan, AK
    Posts
    4,076

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Sepreation is the problem ... Franks got nice dogs i would definatly have the breed again.. The wife just talked to another breeder in twin falls ID south of Frank, and has the same comments about pups he has brought in from the east coast.. some just don't work out.


    we are still looking for a home for him.

    Good grief, I mean good griffon Vince, he even looks like you.

  15. #15
    Member fullkurl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Alaska/Idaho
    Posts
    2,162

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Sepreation is the problem ... Franks got nice dogs i would definatly have the breed again.. The wife just talked to another breeder in twin falls ID south of Frank, and has the same comments about pups he has brought in from the east coast.. some just don't work out.


    we are still looking for a home for him.
    Wow, so sorry to read this, Vince. We've never had a single problem with our dogs and their pups.
    Griffs are a helluva breed, especially for Alaska.

    I'm probably stating the obvious, but it seems to me that the damage was done before you got Andy. The owners probably never had that dog alone ever. An important part of pup training is dedicated solo crate time. Andy was never trained in that way I'd bet. They should be contacted about this before they send out other dogs.

    I'll also get the word out for a new owner.


    John, Logan is looking great...Send a few pics to my home addy. We love seeing the pups prosper into great family and field dogs...

    F.
    Proud to be an American!

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •