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    Default Anyone reload for .303 Savage??

    I have two Savage 1899b's in .303 Savage from 1905 and 1908. The B series is the 26" octagonal barreled version of the 1899. I am wanting to try and reload a 200 grain or 220 grain round nose chugging aong around 1800 - 2000 fps. I figure with the 26" barrel it shouldn't take much IMR 3031 to achieve this speed and i would think it would be a great load within 150 yards foir great penetration. Any thoughts??

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    I'm on the road and can't access my library, but this may help. My Lyman manual from the 1970's (#37, maybe) has both jacketed and cast bullet loads for the 303 in the small classic cartridge section in the back. Find one of those and you'll be set. Worse yet, my own logs are at home too, so I can't pass on my own loads. I recall that while 3031 was a great powder, so were 4064 and 4320, as I recall, with the heavier bullets.

    Anyone out there have on of those older Lyman manuals?

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    thanks brownbear. I would like to devise a heavy slow thumper round for these old rifles.

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    FWIW Lyman Handbook #40 copyright April 1955

    Use any cast bullets and charges for 30-30 Winchester

    180 Grain Jacketed

    3031 sug, grs 29.0 @ 2000 fps Max grs 32.0 @ 2200 fps



    190 Grain Jacketed

    3031 Sug grs 30.0@ 1840 fps Max grs 33.0 @ 2040 fps

    2400 Sug grs 17.9@ 1660 fps Max grs 19,0 @ 1800 fps

    4198 Sug grs 20,0 @ 1498 fps Max grs 27.5 @ 2000 fps

    4320 Sug grs 32.0 @ 1850 fps Max grs 36.5 @ 2145 fps

    Unique Sug grs 8.0 @ 1012 Max grs 11.3 @ 1390 fps

    I am nor responsible for the accuracy or safety of these loads. I have done my best to transcribe the information from an Lyman Publication. I did this in Microsoft word so how bad it will be when I cut and paste it is unknown. Would the Savage 99 have a twist rate that would stabilize the heavy boolits? Good Luck

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    Handloader had an article on just this subject. I will rummage in the closet and look it up.

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    I just returned home today, and Ken Waters "Pet Loads" has a reprint of his article from the November, 1967 Handloader. Is that the one you're looking for, or is it more recent? The heaviest bullet it worked with in that article was the Sierra 180 grain RN.

    I also checked my Lyman #39 manual (1953) and it lists similar loads to those cited from #40 by NorthCountry, with a 190 grain Jacketed being the heaviest bullet. Loads in manual #45 (1970) are similar. Speer Manual #1 (1954) doesn't have any loads for it. The first Hornady manual (1967) doesn't have any data either.

    Philip Sharpe's "Complete Guide to Handloading" (1937) has a bunch of data, but much of it is for old powders no longer in production. The exceptions are Unique, 2400 and 3031, 4198 and 4320 . He's got loads for the 80-grain jacketed 32-20 bullet which look really interesting for plinkers. He also shows loads for a 190 jacketed that notch it up to 2150fps, but I'm not posting them. Lots of caution bells go off when trying to use today's versions of those powders with such old loadings. Great book to pick up at a used book store if you have an interest in loading for older calibers, though.

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    Ok rummaging was successful. From an article in handloader Jan 2006.

    170 grain Nosler Partition, 35 grain RL 15, 2297fps
    180 grain Hornady roundnose, 33g IMR 4895, 2043fps
    190 grain Winchester Silvertip 32g IMR 4895, 1961fps

    There is also a description of how to convert 30-40 Krag cases to 303 savage.

    Apparently fired ww 303 cases held 41.3 grains of water which is the same as a ww 30-30 case. So I assume you could use any pressure tested 30-30 hanload data.

    I hope this helps.

    Cheers.

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    I used to have one:
    190 grain bullet, 34.0 to 34.5 grains IMR4320, Fed 215M primer, loaded to 2.55 COL. ..... gave 2,100 fps from 26 inch barrel. Around a 1 to 1.5 inch group at 100 yards if I did my part.

    I was pushing 180 grain bullets a little faster with 28-29 grains of IMR 3031. I wish I would have tried some accubonds before I sold the rifle and dies to a Savage collector.

    I did try a 200 grain cast lead slug with a gas check. I think it was Oregon Trail bullet. My testing log says I used 22.0 grains of IMR 4227 and was getting 1,890 to 1,900 fps. But for some reason I did not write down what primer I was playing with... I logged a 2.5 inch group so it did not seem to be a super accurate load.

    I think the 303 Savage was a 1 in 12 inch twist. So the long heavy bullets only stabilize if the are short for their weight. IE: Blunt or round nose.
    I do not think that anything over a 200 grain round nose would stabilize.

    It would be hard to beat a 180 grain Nosler partition at 2,200 fps for your purposes...

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