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    Arrow I need some help Identifying this fish

    So yeah This was my first time fishing on the kenai and this was the first fish I caught, So i was pretty giddy about it. This was around june about a quarter mile south of the russian river ferry, I know the video quality is kinda bad and it doesnt really focus on the fish, but can anyone tell me what kind of fish it is? I think its an Arctic Char or a Dolly Varden but I have no idea, im just throwing names out there.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3XPs-mM7Ys
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    you are correct
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    Im correct?

    So its an Arctic Char?
    Or a Dolly Varden?
    A bad day fishing is still better than a good day at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjm View Post
    you are correct
    haha...yes you are correct...
    here comes an argument...I would call it a Char..

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    oh, so the two fish are pretty hard to tell apart then? or are they practically the same thing ?
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    Geographic taxonomy screams dolly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hap View Post
    geographic taxonomy screams dolly...
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    A dolly and an Arctic Char are not the same fish. There is a biologist that is trying to confirm if there are Arctic Char in the Kenai. I have not seen your picture, but most likely it's a dolly. Out of the thousands of Char that I have caught in the Kenai, only a handfull looked like they could be Arctic Char.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaIsCold View Post
    oh, so the two fish are pretty hard to tell apart then? or are they practically the same thing ?
    Yes they are very hard to tell apart. Some people say there are various methods to distinguish the 2 species, but it is difficult and there is enough varience in the individuals that many times the traits will over lap.
    Thats why they are regulated as the same fish.

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    Arctic Char have larger spots, narrow caudal peduncle, different number of pyloric caeca and gill rakers than a dolly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishGod View Post
    Arctic Char have larger spots, narrow caudal peduncle, different number of pyloric caeca and gill rakers than a dolly.
    Are both species capable of becoming anadramous???? One more than the other?

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    If a system is not land locked, most of the dollys will be anadromous. Dollys have a very erratic life history. In land locked lakes, they are dwarf or golden fins. In a system like the Kenai, some will be anadromous, while others remain in the Kenai system their whole lives. When a dolly leaves the Kenai, it may return to a different system like the Kasiloff. Some may come back to the Kenai and never return to the salt again, hence very erratic life history. But, like I mentioned earlier, most will retain their anadromous cycle. Every open water system will have a different life history for dollies than another. Kenai vs Talkeetna. Most arctic chars are lake dwellers. They will enter a river to spawn and feed, but most of their lives are spent in a lake. There are exceptions of course. There have been a few documented cases of anadromous arctic char, but for the most part, they are residents of the system.

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