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    So far I've only loaded for the 30-06 and 270 using RCBS dies and I didn't put a crimp. I am now looking to get into loading for lever action 30-30 and .35 Rem. and from my understanding these rounds need to be crimped. I have been happy using the RCBS dies but are they good for crimped rounds too? Would I be better off with a different brand? These are both rifles that are used for short range deer hunting so I don't want to get too fancy with competition dies or anything like that.

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    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeStaten View Post
    So far I've only loaded for the 30-06 and 270 using RCBS dies and I didn't put a crimp. I am now looking to get into loading for lever action 30-30 and .35 Rem. and from my understanding these rounds need to be crimped. I have been happy using the RCBS dies but are they good for crimped rounds too? Would I be better off with a different brand? These are both rifles that are used for short range deer hunting so I don't want to get too fancy with competition dies or anything like that.

    Thanks,
    Mike
    Untold numbers of deer have been killed with 30/30 ammo loaded on RCBS dies and they will work fine. Case OAL is more critical when you start crimping so make certain to keep a close check on your cases and keep them uniform.

    As a rule I do not crimp my ammo, but for lever guns or hard recoiling rifles I have found I prefer a Lee Factory Crimp Die. A die for your 30/30 should cost in the neighborhood of $10-15 and is a better means to establish a crimp IME.

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    The Lee factory crimp die is excellent.

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    In general I prefer redding dies to RCBS, about the same price and IMHO better dies.

    The Lee factory crimp die is the way to go if you're going to crimp rifle ammo.

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    Do I lose much in performance if I just use the Lee 3 die set instead of adding the Lee factory crimp to a Redding or RCBS set? I can get the Lee 3 die set for about $30 while the other options will cost about $50 for all three.

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    I've used both the RCBS and LEE dies in the .30-30's of mine....I do always use the Lee crimp die, works rather well. I crimp for both the 180 Montana Bullet Works FNGC and the Nosler 170 partitions.

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    I am not a very big fan of Lee equipment for the most part but they do make very good dies for the money. I would just buy the Lee die set with the factory crimp die and start loading.
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    I load and crimp 30-30 with RCBS and Lyman dies. No complaints with either. I doubt there would be very much difference in the functionality of any of the major brands. I've never used a specialty crimping die for anything so I can't comment on whether this added step is of any benefit.

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    Like AD, I reccommend the Lee Pacesetter die set for 30-30 because it includes the Factory Crimp Die.

    Lee Equipment is very innovative, and the price is usually about right.

    I don't like all of it, but maybe that's because I haven't tried the stuff I don't like.

    What I have, I like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeStaten View Post
    So far I've only loaded for the 30-06 and 270 using RCBS dies and I didn't put a crimp. I am now looking to get into loading for lever action 30-30 and .35 Rem. and from my understanding these rounds need to be crimped. I have been happy using the RCBS dies but are they good for crimped rounds too? Would I be better off with a different brand? These are both rifles that are used for short range deer hunting so I don't want to get too fancy with competition dies or anything like that.

    Thanks,
    Mike
    I load the 35rem using hornady dies and back the FL die off .015" to .030" using a washer to keep it square. I do always check to see that the partial sized case fits into the chamber of my 336D before continuing. Then crimp with a LEE factory crimp die and love it.

    H4895 is the go to powder for both the 200gr and 220gr bullets. 2200fps is easy to get with the 200 grainers. (In a 336 760 7600 that can handle it). And is still 10% less than the 30-30's pressure levels. If you load the 35rem look no further than H4895for the 200/220gr bullets and H322 for the 180gr speer.

    My gun likes 2140-2160fps best so I load to that. 39.5grs= 2140, 40.0=2180, & 40.5grs=2200 with the rem 200gr CLRN which is the best 200gr bullet in the rem hands down. I do get veriation of say 20-30fps with different lots of powder/primers/brass/ bullets so I have been working with either 39.5-40.0grs for safty and in my case accuacy too.

    I have replced the lee losk nut with hornady's locking rings on both the FC dies and my 22 hornet collet die, FC die, and Seater die.

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