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    Default Ok, what kind of spruce...

    Was out gettin' timbers for the woods stove today & came across a very peculiar spruce...the limbs on this were much closer, and pointed downwards, & are much closer than what I am used to seeing in black spruce...likewise, the bark was much smoother as well...it was a dead spruce, & it was small diameter as well, 10-12" at the base, & was a very white (as opposed to a reddish white) wood...

    Very odd to see this type of spruce out amoungst all the black spruce we have...

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    My guess would be white spruce? I don't know. How many kinds of spruce do we have in Alaska? Three? Four?

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    Default Ditto that:

    White spruce. Can't be hemlock. Cant be sitka spruce. If it isn't a black spruce, it's gotta be a white. Seems like most white spruce have upswept branches, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayak View Post
    White spruce. Can't be hemlock. Cant be sitka spruce. If it isn't a black spruce, it's gotta be a white. Seems like most white spruce have upswept branches, however.
    na whites are droopy....
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    Default That's racist!

    Not all whites are droopy.

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    Default I guess it was...

    white spruce...very droopy branches...(but with the amount of snowfall we have both white & black spruce have droopy branches...I love the look of the smooth bark & it doesn't flake off like the black spurce!

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    Default black v white

    The left is black, the right is white. You be the judge:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayak View Post
    The left is black, the right is white. You be the judge:
    now wander a few hundred miles away... slightly differnt ecology down that way.. Sayak...
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    Default Maybe so...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    now wander a few hundred miles away... slightly differnt ecology down that way.. Sayak...
    ... but they look like our black and white spruces around here, and here's the kicker: those are pictures of black and white spruce from interior Canada.

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    The white spruce usually has smoother bark, almost like bumpy skin...Black spruce has the flakier bark...Theres also blue spruce too..cant remember the difference offhand though....they have them down around the Gulf of Alaska area.

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    It kind of depends on what they are growing on.

    Minerals affect all growth, and it can still be the same species, just with a differant look.

    Next time you take a trip in the summer,( winter can be a little harder to tell) take a look at the hill sides, and you can see what I'm saying.

    (Clue, there could also be gold under those trees)

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    Default Ok, upon further inspection...

    this could be a young black spurce...but it was a very vibrant young black spurce, as the branches were thicker than other speciemens I've seen out there entotal...

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    Default Maybe a hybrid

    In a book about flora and fauna on the peninsula it is stated that white spruce can hybridize with sitka spruce. Maybe black and white spruce can hybridize as well. If so, would the result be a mulatto spruce?

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    There are two different variates of black spruce in Alaska listed on the USDA website.

    http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PICEA

    It also depends a lot on the soil quality with regards to how they grow.

    http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PIMA
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    Quote Originally Posted by matjpow View Post
    There are two different variates of black spruce in Alaska listed on the USDA website.

    http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PICEA

    It also depends a lot on the soil quality with regards to how they grow.

    http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PIMA

    there are a few different varieties of whit guys over at the USDA too...


    but they are still white guys....
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    Default mat..

    Thanks for the link, I don't think that the soil composition is too much different where this tree was, in relation to the others though...I went out again, & saw not other trees like this one...I am guessing it was a white, but am leaning towards a young black...

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