For the last 2 years I have been asking you guys what the distance was from you to the animal when you fired your first shot at the animal you decided to take. For the last 2 years the distances all of us have posted for the first shot has averaged out to about 180 yards. I did not shoot any thing this year but I cooked some good meals on the boat! My friend shot a 52" Koyukuk bull at about 80 yards with a 180 grain X bullet. My other friend turned down a shot at about 200 yards because he could not bring him self to cut the antler of a 65" or better moose!