anyone tried RL 17 with 150gr TSX in the 300 WSM
anyone tried RL 17 with 150gr TSX in the 300 WSM
Nope, but I tried it in 300 Win Mag, 72.5 gr as per the Alliant Reloader recipe in their manual, using Sierra GKBT 165gr bullets and CCI200 primers. I was shooting in a SS Ruger M77 MKII sporter with laminate stock, Weaver Grand Slam 3-9 X 40 and achieved 1.25" groups. Not as good as I would prefer.
I'd solicit some input from MontanaRifleman. He's done more with the .300WSM than anybody else I'm aware of. I believe he's used RL17 quite a bit and posted results in old threads (might try back searching)... he'll probably be along shortly but I'd PM him if he's not.
I tried it with 165's and was getting phenomenal velocity, but the accuracy wasn't there. Going to back off and try it again when my schedule lets me get back to the range.
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As far as accuracy... they were shot ouf my Sako Finnlight which has never shot anything good and the best groups I got out of that rifle were with the 180 E- Tips and 210 Bergers.
I'm sure accuracy will vary from rifle to rifle.
I would recommend givng the RL17 a try with the 150's, but I think for the burn rate range of 17, it will probably be a little more efficient with some hevier bullets. I know of another guy who got 3350 with the 168 TTSX's, but I was only able to get about 3100. Go figure....
P.S. I got great results in my Sendero 25-06 with 110 AB's and 115 Ballistic Silvertips. Velocities were 200 fps plus faster than any other powder I saw listed for those. Great accuracy too. Just got my buck antelope this morning with the 115 Silvertip. Thread to follow in a few days.
I have loaded 165g accubonds with some RL17. Seemed to be about the same accuracy as my other loads, maybe a bit better, but it did seem to give me an extra 100fps over anything else I have loaded for it. I'll take that. I haven't played with it too much as I am in AK and my reloading setup is in MN, and I only messed with it for a day or two when I was home for a week this summer. From what I saw though it seemed to show a lot of promise.
I shot a tree starting at 61 grains through 66 grains with 180gr TTSX wout of my browning. I had great speed increases over the RL19 (412fps)but accuracy wasnt as good as I hoped. It wasnt bad, but I have a sub 1" at 200 yards with the RL19 and just over 2" with the RL17.
95 less than my 25-06... 3385 - 95 = 3290 for 180 gr bullets... WOW! That is approaching 300 RUM velocites.
Crono my 300 WSM the 150 TSX was getting 3300 FPS with 69.3 of RL 17 FC 215GM primers and FC nickle brass.......accuracy was good, seems to prefer 150's over 168 TSX with RL 17.
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Do you have any load data for RL 17 using 165grn nosler accubond for 300 WSM? I just got a couple hundred of the in the mail today. Thanks
12/28/10 My name is Todd. email address is email@example.com. Anything you could send my way would be most help full. Got family just outside of Hamilton and Darby Lost horse rd. Thanks for your help!
MontanaRifleman does that sound right? RL17 65.5 grains tikka 24' barrel col 2.84 avg fps 5 shots 3165. No pressure signs no sticky bolt lift. I am NOT using a mag primer. SHould I be? any help would be great. thank you sir!
I'm tellin ya, we need a sticky thread in the reloading forum just on RL-17 Powder. I talked with Alliant awhile back on some loads they aren;t gonna publish, but found by searching the web that guys are testing this powder in cartridges that Alliant won't publish and having some great results. This stuff is like the coming of Jesus in hand loading and we need a spot to share our testing results at. JMO
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There is a pretty good article in Rifle magazine, Jan 2011 edition titled "Designer Powders: High Octane or Regular" by John Barsness. From what I gathered from the read, it appears like R17 really shines in the short magnums, and a few older cartridges like 243. According to the article, it does not fare as well with the '06. Too long of an article to summerize, but looks like we have more choices than ever now in powders with some unique specilty powders coming out all the time for specific rounds/applications. Looks like I will have to break down and get some R17 for my sons 300 WSM and stick with H4350 or R19 for the 338. I am looking forward to reading some results on some of the other newer powders like Alliants Power Pro Series and Hodgdons Leverevolution. Keep the info coming as it appears we have alot of interest here.
Just broke down today and bought a 5lb jug of R17. Will start working up some loads for 300WSM and Barnes bullets. If it does not work out to be the right powder for my rifle, having a small supply will give me another excuse for purchasing a 375 Ruger as I have read of good results using this powder in it.
I just started utilizing the RL17 in my 300WSM and love it. I am also getting just above 3300 FPS through a 24" barrel. The group sizes are about .75" at 100 yards consistently. I haven't killed anything other than an antelope this year so the actual results on animals has not been seen but I hope to at least fill a deer tag with them this year and will report back. I have had great success with all of Barnes TTSX bullets in various calibers.
Sweet! I just had some 325WSM RCBS dies sneak into the shopping cart at 3 bears yesterday along with the latest Barnes manual... My shop/reloading construction project is nearing completion with drywall going in as I type so it looks like I will get to work up my own loads over the winter! RL17 will be on the menu as it seems to be right at home in the WSM cartridges.