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    I'm looking a used scope for my 300 WSM it is marked "Swarovski Habicht
    3-9x36a " The seller doesn't have the warnty papers, but the scope is in good shape.

    Swarovskis web pages sya that you haave to have the papers for the scope to be covered. Would you take a risk on this scope and how much would you pay? Also does any one know what the a on the 3-9x36a means. It's not listed that way on the web. Could this mean it is a second or possibly refurbished

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    DR B

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    Thumbs up Swarovski Scope

    Dr. B,

    The 3-9x36 A is a super scope. I have two of them and love 'em. The A means American or Aluminum. Either way it is aluminum tube (as opposed to steel of the European models) and it is made for the American market. They are not made anymore and the last selling price I saw was about $600-$700 and was about 10 years ago. I will tell you there are people who will pay $500 for that scope if in very nice condition. If you don't buy it please send me info on the seller so I can contact him. Thank you very much, and good shootin'.

    Murphy

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    I have this same scope with a German #4 reticle mounted on a VZ24 in .257 Roberts. I got it off Ebay a couple of years back for $500. It is an excellent scope and would probably buy another if I came across it.

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    Well,

    I own also a Swaro Habicht PV-N, but a 3-12x50 with illuminated reticle: Nice and brilliant scope!
    @murphy: all European scopes are made no longer from steel - all are alluminium made

    The AV-edition (which the 3-9x36 is from) is a special leightweight edition, especially designed for the American market, but also available in Europe

    Well, if You could take the risk: You must decide. But here in Europe Swarovski offers a brilliant service for all products: I had a problem with mine and it was fixed within 3 days!!! Including shipping from Germany to Austria and back!

    Good luck with your decisiion!

    Klaus

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    Klaus,

    Is this model still available in Europe? I would like to find another.

    This particular scope was one of a series of scopes made for the American market and that series was all one inch aluminum tubes. Up to that time all other Swarovskis were steel and fixed were one inch and variable powers were 30mm. I have several of the European steel scopes. Now, yes the Kahles, Swarovski, Schmitt & Bender, and I guess all the others are aluminum tubes. I have an old 8X56 Swar. that is as clear and bright as when new. it is a 1" steel. Also a 4x32 with the #4 reticle on an old FN custom, that is steel. Pretty indestructable scopes.

    I think the Americans found out about the brighter 30 mm scopes and don't mind carrying more scope on their rifle. There are advantages of a 30 mm tube but compact they are not. Let me know about that 3-9x36 Swar.

    Good shootin'.

    Murphy

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    Hi Murphy,

    sure it should be available: It is on the homepage of Swaro and it is listed in the catalogues for 1040 € - sure no cheap, but my 3-12x50 costed about 1750€... (all including 16% German VAT, which You don´t have to pay).

    If I could help You by getting one, please drop me a note...

    I know, the old ones have been made with steel tubes, but the current editions of all scope manufacturer are Aluminium made...

    Here in Europe most people (including me) like the editions with rails (not the old 70° prisma rail which was with the steel tubes): It is easy to mount, you could change within minutes (OK, You have to adjust again) from one gun to another... It looks nice and there is no stress on the scope if you have the right scope mount... Have You seen a Swarovski-Rail yet?

    Well, a 36mm scope is well for dailight hunting, but Germans need more light: we have big problems with wild pigs and we could only get them during night: So moonlight and the reflection of the city´s light on the clouds must be enough for your scope to aim your target...

    Have a nice day..

    Klaus

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    Klaus, I shot several boar over bait at night with my 7mm rem mag, Mauser 3000 and 2.5 x 10 x 50 Zeiss scope. I could usually see enough of the silhouette to put one through the shoulder. Right now I'm wishing I had bought a 1.5 x 5 Kahles or Zeiss (if they made it) for my .375. Hunting in Germany is much different from hunting in the states. I enjoyed it, especially the drive hunts.

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    Hi Bill, sure: Thats what I also use: I have a 3-12x50 Swaro and a 2,5-10x50 Zeiss in use: they are both excellent for pig hunting. I don´t think that the difference to a 56mm-scope is so big for light, but the 50th´s are very compact on the rifle compared to a 56mm-scope... Not looking like an pipe of an oven
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    Well, both, Zeiss and Swarovski are making 1.5-4x42 scopes and a 1.1-4x24 ...

    The 3x power of the scope is low enough for me, even with my .375H&H I use the same scope (one scope for two weapons!) - if it is too high I will take the scope off and take open sights...

    What kind of scope do You have on your .375H&H?

    Sure, hunting is completly different in Germany, but I have never been hunting in the US unfortunally - I hope than I can afford one day...

    Have a nice day...

    Klaus

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    I currently have a Bauch and Lomb Elite 3 x 9 on it. I just think its too much power for that rifle although I have yet to have a problem. I like the heavier reticles on the Zeiss and Kahles I do own and think the heavier reticle plus the better light in low light conditions would make things better. The .375 is also a Mauser Model 3000.

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    If it is "Habicht" it is a European made scope from Swarovski. The American version is "Hunter". Difference in Austrian and English languages...

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    Smile "Habicht"

    Mr. Phillips,

    I believe the name "Habicht" is one of two possibilities, from Swarovski. Habicht is the name of a mountain in Tyrol, Austria (where Swarovskis are made), the most prominent peak in the area some 10.750 feet above MSL, or also a likely source is for the night hunting hawk found in central Europe, Fliegender Habicht (genus; Accipiter gentillis). I believe Swarovski names it's rifle scopes after this bird because of it's ability to see after dark(such as the north American owls) to bring out the scopes ability to "see after dark". Also you will find the bird on Swarvosky scope turret caps. Thus the name.

    I think they speak German there and the German name for sport hunting is Jagd, not habicht. I don't get out much any more, but I have been around the block. Good shootin'.

    murphy

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    Hi Murphy,
    you are right about that bird - he is one of the strongest birds in Europe after the hawk and the Uhu (an owl. He hunts in the dawn, but not at night like an owl... But I think You are right: they named their scopes after this bird, because it is a famous and strong hunter...

    Good night to AK...

    Klaus

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    Cool "Eyes like a Hawk"

    Klaus,

    Thanks for the clarification. That is really some bird, I think more similar to the falcons, huh?

    Wow! The prices of those Swarovskis now-a-days. I'll have to wait a bit.

    Thanks again.

    Murphy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy
    Mr. Phillips,

    I believe the name "Habicht" is one of two possibilities, from Swarovski. Habicht is the name of a mountain in Tyrol, Austria (where Swarovskis are made), the most prominent peak in the area some 10.750 feet above MSL, or also a likely source is for the night hunting hawk found in central Europe, Fliegender Habicht (genus; Accipiter gentillis). I believe Swarovski names it's rifle scopes after this bird because of it's ability to see after dark(such as the north American owls) to bring out the scopes ability to "see after dark". Also you will find the bird on Swarvosky scope turret caps. Thus the name.

    I think they speak German there and the German name for sport hunting is Jagd, not habicht. I don't get out much any more, but I have been around the block. Good shootin'.

    murphy
    You're right Murph, Habicht is German for Hawk.

    Still, have yet to see Swarovski use Habicht for their line of American line scopes.

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    Well Murphy,

    that´s why I invented a scope mount, which uses ONE scope to as much weapons as You want (repeters only)... So I spend one time a lot of money for a brilliant scope and use that for the rest of my weapons... NO adjustment between changes, just one time... Just as a camera with it´s lenses...

    @the birds:
    Soory, the biggest one, especially in the European Alps is the Eagle. I don´t know the english translation for the "Habicht" as every source gives me different translations... So I try to describe him a little bit more: He is as strong to catch a younger fox, or an adult rabbit. The female is a lot bigger than the male and as You told before: he is hunting in the dawn till the early night, but not as an owl during night...

    Greetings
    Klaus

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