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    Default Splitting lips and noses...

    Hello all...



    I posted a similar thread on the "Meat and trophy care" forum but did not get much feed back.



    Could someone please explain the finer details of this procedure to me or perhaps point me in the right direction. I realize this is a fairly delicate process and there is no way to fully explain all the details but any insight would be helpful.



    Thanks a lot.

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    You'll need lots of one sided "safety" razor blades. It's a process that takes time and patience more then "know how". Below is my best attempt to help you, provided you have the Bear "skinned out" according to ADF&G's instructions http://www.wc.adfg.state.ak.us/index...rhunt.skinning .

    1. You basically want to take your blade and split the lips (Upper and Lower), seperating the the inside of the mouth from the outside. There's not much thickness to work with, but it can (must) be done. Cut through the membrane to within 1/8" of the actual lip surface, then pack the insicion with salt.

    2. The nose is done similar, you want to remove as much of the "cartilage" as possible without getting to close to the colored nose skin.

    3. Don't forget the ears also. This requires you to stick your finger or similar tool into the ear canal and roll the ear cartilage out...all the way to the tip.

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    A wooden spoon works good for turning ears.

    After the mask is removed you insert the spoon into the ear canal from the outside. Brace the end of the spoon and pull down on the skin with one hand as you work your blade tip between the ear skin and cartiledge.

    Dr's scalpels work great for this kind of work. Medical supply companies sell them.

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    Be very careful around the eyes and do not cut the tear duct and go slowly. You need to get all the meat off the inside of the cape so the salt can set the hair so it won't slip. I like to use scalpels and always bring extra blades so I always have a sharp one handy. It's meticulous work but when it's done right, it's very satisfying knowing that you did it all yourself.

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    Default See your taxidermist

    Stop by and ask your taxidermist for tips- a little bit of hands-on, first-person instruction will pay big dividends- good luck!

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    There is a good video that explains the whole procedure at the books/videos section on this site...great start...and the scalpels are the best way to go with disposable a box of blades...saves a LOT of time sharpening and not very expensive..IMHO

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    If you want to turn his nose, and split his lip. A hard left hook, a right cross, and as he is going down, really hit him with all you got. Someone did it to me, and it split my lip, and did more than turn my nose........

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    Default Wilderness Taxidermy

    This has a excellant video called Wilderness Taxidermy

    http://www.pristineventures.com/prod...lications.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANCguy View Post
    Stop by and ask your taxidermist for tips- a little bit of hands-on, first-person instruction will pay big dividends- good luck!
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    The havalin knives with removable scalpel blades are handy for this kind of work.

    Brett

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    Default Thanks to all that replied,,,

    I guess I'm a little confused still. I was under the impression that you some how "rolled" back the flesh of the lips and nose, similar to the way you skin the rest of the cape.



    It sounds like what is being said here is to literally "split" (hence the name) the lips and noses by simply making an incision to allow you to pack it with salt. Did I understand that right? Or did I miss something?

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    after the hide is removed from the head.
    you work from the inside of the lip. there will be a faint "seam" where the lip rolls back on itself. you split this seam & work towards the bottom (inner/outer edge) of the lip.
    this discussion doesn't really lend itself to written instruction. you need to see someone who knows what he's doing demonstrate it to you.
    call taxidermists & ask them to let you watch them do it. someone will be happy to accomadate (they all need new customers).
    Gary

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    No, do not split them like that or you'll ruin the head. What you need to do is split the lips on the inside of the mouth so your taxisermist can fold the lips down over the form. You need to get the meat out from inside the lips. I've done it once before with a sheep and it's not hard to do, you just need to be careful to not cut it up.

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    Default splitting lips

    Quote Originally Posted by ducks n' dogs View Post
    I guess I'm a little confused still. I was under the impression that you some how "rolled" back the flesh of the lips and nose, similar to the way you skin the rest of the cape.



    It sounds like what is being said here is to literally "split" (hence the name) the lips and noses by simply making an incision to allow you to pack it with salt. Did I understand that right? Or did I miss something?
    Feel inside your upper and lower lip. To remove the mask you'll be cutting where the inside of the lip meets the gums. Once the mask is removed you'll need to split the lip to get salt inside. Start where you cut them from the gums and fillet toward the lip itself. Your cut is running between the inner lip and the outer lip. Take it all the way down but not through the lip. When you are done you'll have a big flap of inner lip the you can lay out flat. I usually try to feel the thickness of the lips. Where my cut ended should be the same as the rest of the lip if I made it far enough.

    For the nose, I peel skin down the to where the hair line ends. Then make a cut through center of the inside cartlidge (sp?) separating the two nostrils. This allows salt to get in there and keep any hair from slipping.

    I've only done three animals (2 goats and a sheep) and watch another done (sheep), but my taxidermist was very pleased with the work, so I must be doing something right.

    -Carnivore
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    Duck N' Dogs
    Send me a email and I will send you some how-to photos, or give me a call.

    alaskamountinman@hotmail.com.
    Alaska Mountin' Man Taxidermy
    North Pole, Ak 99705
    (907) 488-7083

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    Default Thanks...

    The how to photos were the ticket. As they say "A picture is worth a thousand words".

    thanks to everyone that replied.

    I just hope its eaiser to do than it is to explain.

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