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    Default Kenai River Coho Harvest by User Group

    FYI

    Data source:
    fmr07-66.pdf



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    Default Interesting- and conflicting.

    I'm confused. Thats a great chart. But this quote from the '05 management report by Pat Shields. "The 2005 Commercial coho salmon harvest of approximately 225,000 fish..."

    The chart shows roughly 5,000 commercial caught Kenai coho. This shows that Kenai coho make up 2.2% of the commercial catch- is that an accurate assessment?

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    Default The bigger picture...

    Quote Originally Posted by willphish4food View Post
    I'm confused. Thats a great chart. But this quote from the '05 management report by Pat Shields. "The 2005 Commercial coho salmon harvest of approximately 225,000 fish..."

    The chart shows roughly 5,000 commercial caught Kenai coho. This shows that Kenai coho make up 2.2% of the commercial catch- is that an accurate assessment?
    Commercial proportions of Kenai Coho in the commercial catch is unknown... The only study that could have estimated this is now shut down.... From what I understand the estimated commercial harvest can be greater or equal to the sport harvest...

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    Default From the source

    Here's the table I made the chart from:



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    Default you understand wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by TYNMON View Post
    Commercial proportions of Kenai Coho in the commercial catch is unknown... The only study that could have estimated this is now shut down.... From what I understand the estimated commercial harvest can be greater or equal to the sport harvest...
    You are incorrect. While the tagging study is not operating today the data from 2005 was from the tagging study. Kenai coho because of run timing are not a major contributer to the total coho harvest. This was fully discussed at the 2005 and 2008 Board of Fisheries meeting. The overall exploitation rate on Kenai River coho has been limited to under 60% by BOF regulations and the majority of the harvest is in the sport fishery.

    Most of the 225,000 coho referenced by Mr. Shields come from Northern bound coho and coho caught on the west side of Cook Inlet.

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    Default Change in regulations

    There were changes made at both the 2005 and 2008 board meetings which affected the numbers of coho that can be caught commercially. So data ending in 2005 misses those changes, and does not show the current picture in the Cook Inlet. As coho have a sportfish priority, sport fishermen SHOULD be catching the majority- that would show that the managers are managing the fishery according to the management plans.

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    Default willifish4food

    Willfish4food- your comment about a sport fish priority as measured by harvest is not even close to statements in the management plans. For example, in the Northern District Management Plan (5aac 21.358 it states " The department shall also manage the chum, pink, and sockeye salmon stocks to minimize the harvest of Northern District coho salmon, to provide sport and guided sport fisherman a reasonable opportunity to harvest these salmon resources over the entire run, as measured by the frequency of inriver restrictions, or as specified in this section or other regulations"

    Willfish4food, you should know this being from the ND and on the advisory board. Why do you keep implying via this forum regulations and positions that the BOF has not taken. For example, the BOF knew full well that they cannot make sport fisherman catch coho to meet some harvest goal. The number of coho systems in the ND and lack of access makes this impossible to achieve so they measure the primarily for by opportunity.

    Also, you implied changes in 2005 and 2008 changed the Kenai River harvest and therefore data from 2005 may not be valid. That is not correct. The harvest between the user groups is about the same with the sport fishery taken an order of maginude more fish than other groups. The BOF took action to reduce the Kenai coho harvest when sockeye abundance is low as measured by the commercial sockeye harvest. Lets keep the facts correct here. You said the sport fisherman should catch more than commercial fisherman. Go for it - the number of coho entering the ND is greater than a 1 million fish - the fact the fishery is spread out, not available because of difficulty in getting to streams, and limits are kept low for the whole area because of pressure on a few systems is not the fault of any other user group.

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