I just wanted to share some of my thoughts regarding youth rifles for Alaska. I figure that I ain't the only one who is in the process of equipping a child, or a family member who hasn't hunted with a rifle for Alaska. Hands down.....I feel that the 308 winchester is the greatest youth caliber for the new hunter in our state. Beginners shouldn't be subjected to large amounts of recoil, but the caliber should be of sufficient size in regards to being versatile enough to hunt all game in Alaska. The beginner shoudnt have to tote around a heavy/long 24 in. barreled rifle either. How do you do this? With the .308 Winchester of course! The beginner should be able to take it to the range and have a blast shooting the rifle all day, without being beat up, tapped in the face with a scope, or bruised shoulder and rattled jaws. The beginner deserves this friendliness that the 308 offers. If you are not a reloader I'm sure that you could post a thread like this in the hand loading forum: "Need someone to load these 110 grain bullets as a target load for my youngster" Any forum member who hand loads would jump to the task of creating a starting load in the 308 with those 110 grain bullets that you bought from midwayusa.com. I'm certain that any forum member would want to be a part of introducing a youngster to the shooting scene. As the youngster blasts away from the various shooting positions you instruct..........you just grinn......knowing that when it's time for the hunt.......you're going to throw a 180-200 grain premium bullet in that youngster's rifle.......and that youngster will cleanly and effectively take his/or her first moose or black bear. A 165 grainer someday for sheep, caribou, goat, or deer. When that young un grows up......that rifle will still be there. That rifle will still be ready for the task at hand.....it may even be grabbed up over that "new magunum I bought with my own money" sitting in his or her safe. You see.......stocks can always be swapped out for a full length of pull stock when the youth length of pull has been outgrown. Best magnification for that wonderful lil rifle? how about a nice light weight scope that only weighs around 8 ounces (give or take)? weaver 1-3, Leupold 1-4, Nikon 1.5-5, Burris 2-7. Give that youngun a nice big field view for that exciting first pull of the trigger on a big bull moose 30 yds. in front of you. I hope this info helps narrow the choice of what type of rifle you plan to equip those beginning shooters in your family........ahem.......ruger ultralight (20in. barrel) with the stock cut down an inch or two with a pachmyer recoil pad.