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    I know these questions are asked a lot, but I searched the airlines and it was confusing.

    I was planning to have my hand gun shipped from dealer to dealer, but now my travel plans may be changing to flying.

    Can I just put my .460 in my check-in suitcase? If so, what about ammo?

    (domestic flights)

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticmike View Post
    I know these questions are asked a lot, but I searched the airlines and it was confusing.

    I was planning to have my hand gun shipped from dealer to dealer, but now my travel plans may be changing to flying.

    Can I just put my .460 in my check-in suitcase? If so, what about ammo?

    (domestic flights)
    I put mine in a locking handgun hard case, then put that inside the suitcase and inform the check-in clerk that it's there. Same form and procedures as a larger gun case shipped on its own. I haven't carried ammo at the same time, so I don't know about whether it would have to be in a separate suitcase, or simply having it in the suitcase but outside the locking gun handcase would be enough.

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    Last time I took a pistol the requirement was that it had to be in a locking case and any ammo had to be in factory packaging. TSA inspected the gun and had me lock it and they never looked at the ammo that was in a different bag. The ammo package does not have to be sealed or even contain factory ammo. I was told I just had to carry ammo in a factory package.

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    I fly quite often with handguns. The requirements are that the gun be in a hard sided lockable case. It must be unloaded and declared to the airline to counter clerk. I then put the small (two gun size) case inside another luggage case and theck the bag (can't carry it on). Ask the clerk for a firearm declarations form. They will give you a small card to sign, (certifying it is unloaded) they keep a copy and you put a copy in the luggage that contains the guncase. Then you'll take it to TSA and you tell them what you have, etc. They will probably ask for you key or ask you to unlock the case for their inspection, then return your key.

    It has never been a problem for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pid View Post
    I was told I just had to carry ammo in a factory package.
    Factory box or other packages specifically designed to carry ammunition.

    TSA ammo FAQs
    http://safetravel.dot.gov/index_ammunition.html

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    http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1666.shtm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pid View Post
    Last time I took a pistol the requirement was that it had to be in a locking case and any ammo had to be in factory packaging. TSA inspected the gun and had me lock it and they never looked at the ammo that was in a different bag. The ammo package does not have to be sealed or even contain factory ammo. I was told I just had to carry ammo in a factory package.
    When was it that you took ammo? I wonder if that is still OK these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armymark View Post
    When was it that you took ammo? I wonder if that is still OK these days.
    Yes . . . ammo is still fine but not components i.e. powder and primers.

    Look here! http://safetravel.dot.gov/index_ammunition.html
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    The plastic case that came with it from the factory does not have a lock, and even if I use a cable, it's just a plastic handle. I suppose I need to buy a locking case.

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    i went though all the same steps as the like people did and check my bags in ..
    i took a hardshell typle suit case with me and a duffle bag full of my winter survival items in the bag ..
    i just put the handgun ammo in hard case inside the duffle bag and they checked and put onto the place after the tsa people checked it,.
    took me about extras 20.mins of dealing with the tsa
    the biggest problem i had was getting the girl keep her voice down that i was carrying a weapon ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticmike View Post
    The plastic case that came with it from the factory does not have a lock, and even if I use a cable, it's just a plastic handle. I suppose I need to buy a locking case.
    Yup, and I always make sure that it says "FAA approved" on the label then keep the label under the padding inside just in case. Never had any trouble but if I ever do I donítí want to be saying ďI promise itís an approved caseĒ like to keep the evidence.
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    I have traveled with a handgun about a dozen times now. Almost all with the same case..a cheap plastic pistol case ..that I used cheap Masterlock TSA locks on. Never an issue.
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    Not sure what airlines you are flying, but most have info on their websites. Alaska Airlines has their policy online. Pretty easy requirements. I recently printed it out and placed in the case I placed my pistol in. Also, you can buy TSA Master padlocks to place on your case. That way when you check it, TSA has a universal key to open and inspect without you having to be there.

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    Thanks,

    It appears I can use the blue plastic case my gun came in, and perhaps use the cable lock that came with the gun, to lock the case with. I can put all that in my suit case, and put a box of ammo (in the original box) inside the same suit case.

    The TSA lock, is that available for sale at the airport?

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    i just came home last month from the states with Ammo and guns in the same case... no issues...

    check in at counter. fill out form include it in your case get escorted to TSA they will look at it all. and sign it off...

    lock the case

    and give it away....


    my case...( a break down shot gun case) had combo locks. latch locks and pad locks... they still got in it and played with them all but they were intact...when they got home...
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    TSA locks are available at pretty much any sporting goods store. I bought my last ones at Fred Meyers on the way out of town because I forgot mine.
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    ERA does not allow ammo in the same case as a firearm. I found out the hard way last year after arriving on another airline with no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshall View Post
    ERA does not allow ammo in the same case as a firearm. I found out the hard way last year after arriving on another airline with no issues.
    The TSA rule is that ammo can’t be in the same case as the gun, but where it gets fuzzy is does that mean the gun case itself or any luggage. Most airlines are fine with a gun in a gun case tossed in the same suite case as the ammo as long as the ammo is not in the gun case, Era was not one of them. Era and Frontier have merged (last fall I think) since I trained up and I don’t know whose part 145 certificates they are working under so it may or may not be true now.
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    My understanding...

    gun in a lockable hard sided case

    ammo seperately in ammo box it came in or ammo plastic box

    just declare it at the check in counter

    gun unloaded of course and ammo can be in other luggage, but not in actual gun case

    never had any problems doing it this way
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    http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1666.shtm
    The key regulatory requirements to transporting firearms, firearm parts or ammunition in checked baggage are:

    -You must declare all firearms to the airline during the ticket counter check-in process.
    -The firearm must be unloaded.
    -The firearm must be in a hard-sided container.
    -The container must be locked. A locked container is defined as one that completely secures the firearm from access by anyone other than you. Cases that can be pulled open with little effort do not meet this criterion. The pictures provided here illustrate the difference between a properly packaged and an improperly packaged firearm.
    We recommend that you provide the key or combination to the security officer if he or she needs to open the container. You should remain present during screening to take the key back after the container is cleared. If you are not present and the security officer must open the container, we or the airline will make a reasonable attempt to contact you. If we can't contact you, the container will not be placed on the plane. Federal regulations prohibit unlocked gun cases (or cases with broken locks) on aircraft.
    ****TSA locks are not approved for securing firearms. *****
    -You must securely pack any ammunition in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging that is specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
    -You can't use firearm magazines/clips for packing ammunition unless they completely and securely enclose the ammunition (e.g., by securely covering the exposed portions of the magazine or by securely placing the magazine in a pouch, holder, holster or lanyard).
    -***You may carry the ammunition in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as you pack it as described above. ***
    -You can't bring black powder or percussion caps used with black-powder type firearms in either your carry-on or checked baggage.

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