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    There's an EO in effect that opens set gill netting within one half mile of the mean high tide mark in the Kasilof/Kenai area from 10am today until 2am Saturday. This will impact the dipping on the tides Saturday and Sunday and maybe tnights tide as well (but not as significantly as tommorrow).
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    The opening you are talking about is for the Kasilof area only. Shouldn't have much effect on the Kenai.

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    Everytime I go that happens, so this year I am staying home and my wife and mother in law are down there!

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    Just took a look at 12:30 7/17 and it looks dead at high tide. However, I learned on wednesday that it can quickley change. I had five fish in six hours and then 21 in about an hour when everything just went crazy. My advice to dippers is to stick with it, you never know when those fish will make up their mind and make a mad dash for the river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye Scott View Post
    My advice to dippers is to stick with it, you never know when those fish will make up their mind and make a mad dash for the river.

    Scott
    Exactly!!!

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    I agree about sticking with it. DH is down there and early this morning they only got 5 within three hours. They took a break, and at about 1:30 p.m he called and said they got 20 in an hour.

    I head down tonight and told them they better save me some fish to filet! My 12 year old son just learned how to filet and is taking my job away from me!

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    They can hit fast. On Wednesday the morning drifts were real slow but on the afternoon low tide we picked up 60 or more fish in a couple of hours with 2 nets in the water

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    Last Friday I was debating on whether to go down on Saturday and try the Kasilof or not as there was to be an opener from 10 AM to 8 PM on Saturday. I went and am glad I did as I managed 22 fish in about 6 hrs of effort. It wasn't the fastest action but sure was better than sitting at home wondering "what if." Sonar counted 14,600+ fish that day. Sometimes you get lucky and fish are running up the river, even with comm nets in the water.

    Good luck,

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    P.S. July 15th would have been a good day on the Kasilof - 20,909 fish!

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    Hey Robb,

    We're going down to the Kenai Monday and can stay as late as wednesday evening. Got any predictions about the best fishing time/tides to hit in that window? I know the commfish fleet is going full-bore Monday, so that will probably be mostly a travel and establish a camp day for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coho slayer View Post
    Hey Robb,

    I know the commfish fleet is going full-bore Monday
    So where is the best place to get this info?

    I am planning on Wed, but I don't want to go if they are putting out the nets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tv321 View Post
    So where is the best place to get this info?

    I am planning on Wed, but I don't want to go if they are putting out the nets.
    Call 267-2512. Pick option #1.

    They update at least daily, and they can implement Emergency Order commercial fishing openings, so it's a good idea to check frequently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coho slayer View Post
    Hey Robb,

    We're going down to the Kenai Monday and can stay as late as wednesday evening. Got any predictions about the best fishing time/tides to hit in that window? I know the commfish fleet is going full-bore Monday, so that will probably be mostly a travel and establish a camp day for us.
    Actualy the fishing can be good with the nets in the water, it is just the tides after the nets come out of the water that can be slow.
    It ain't about the # of pounds of meat we bring back, nor about how much we spent to go do it. Its about seeing what no one else sees.

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    I was gone since last Fri Dipnetting!

    As for my assessment three days ago about the forewarning; I was not too far off the mark; the weather changed on us and the comm set netters DID in fact go out Sat & Sun as I'd predicted. The middle river was the hot ticket; I fished from the bank on Friday Night and Saturday; our group did well but not hot. We changed things up a bit; Kenai Keeper Jim and I fished the south side for the first time together... I've fished it a couple of times in the past but we're North Shore guys at heart and are set in our ways. Overall the crowds of people were simply phenomenal. I've never seen that many folks on either side of the river before, you'd have thought there were tons of fish or something?

    Fished from a boat yesterday and it was indeed great. This was my last of three years of dipping to commit to saying that the middle two hours of each tide holds a window in-and-of-itself for the most activity. I've dipped and observed the banks on both sides to really nail down the best chances of "twofers" and busy bonkers. Thanks to Mr. Federico SCADA (South Centeral Alaska Dipnetters Association) for escorting a handful of us up and down the river; the fishing and commaraderie were really great. I am going to continue my shore dipping for some of my fish but I'm obligated to say that although a bit more expensive, the boat dipping is the cats pajamas.

    Now for the weekly prediction: This week we'll see a bit of dip (OTF yesterday was 19, lower than the other two falling days) indicating that we've reached the lull in the run; be expecting some trickling action over the next couple of days some bursts will make it through and timing is key; like it's been said before you just have to be there and plan to stick it out.

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    "He who is slow to anger is better than the mighty, and he who rules his spirit is better than he who takes a city." ~ Proverbs 16:32

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    Thumbs up Last weekend was great!!!!

    Thanks for the Kudo's Back Country Rob!!!! To all that don't know, I am the founder of the South Central Alaska Dipnetters association. (Rob's last post).
    We had a ball this weekend and though the fishing was slow at times, when it picked up, it was just crazy. 60 or 70 in two hours.
    Sunday morning was the cat's meaow. Back country Rob was bringing in double's and triple's on the low tide.
    He is correct about the middle two hours of each tide. That seemed the most productive for us by boat.
    I only ask that people dipping by boat designate a driver that does not dip. The boat traffic on the river is pretty heavy this year and concentration is needed to drive safely. The Coast guard aux. is out there so make sure you have all the proper equipment on board. I was the designated driver and still had a couple of close calls. My neck still hurts swiveling around trying to keep a check on boat traffic while Rob danced on the bow with all those fish.
    A shameless plug but if you want to keep dipnetting in the future, maybe check out Alaskadipnetting.com. With all the recent lawsuits filed in Federal court by commercial fishermen trying to shut all dipnetting down in the state, we need to band together and let our voices be heard. You can read those lawsuits at the website.
    Good luck and be safe!!!! Ken

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    What is the take on this weekend, the 24th - 26th?

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    I'll update a bit later once OTF data and commercial's update the hotline. I'd just GO anyway. It's the third weekend of July and there is going to be fish. If the weather is nasty, do what I do; wait until the middle two hours of the tide before baptizing your last change of clothes.
    "He who is slow to anger is better than the mighty, and he who rules his spirit is better than he who takes a city." ~ Proverbs 16:32

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    Thanks Robb. Perhaps I will run into some OD guys while down there.

    MW

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    Exclamation Kasilof is being destroyed

    A humble request for all those visiting Kasilof... please pack out your trash and show some respect for the property. I usually fish mid-week just because I hate crowds, but we did stop down last Saturday evening to have a look and it was an absolute madhouse. I've expected that the increasing stream of out-of-area dipnetters would eventually spill over to the Kasilof, especially after Kenai started charging for access to the river. Unless people start showing some respect for the Kasilof access area, we are going to ruin that area in no time.

    Motorhomes lined both sides of the road for a mile leaving barely a single traffic lane in the center and every square inch of that "keep off the vegitation" dune grass was covered with vehicles, tents, motorhomes, etc. People are actually putting up tents and camping in the middle of the "parking" and "driving" areas of the beach.

    People are cleaning their fish above the high tide mark and leaving all the carcasses lying on the top of the beach. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of fish heads & guts all over the dunes and driving areas above the high mark. Intermixed with all that is lots of trash. That's just rude. Toss the fish waste back in the ocean and take your garbage out with you.

    There are 3 dumpsters by the entry to the native property and all of them were overflowing with bags of trash tossed all over the area. If the dumpster is full, take your trash with you. A little common sense folks.

    Show some respect for the area and leave it better than it was when you showed up. That will help guarantee that you will be able to fish here in the future. Coming in and raping the resource without regard for our public land is how places like this get shut down or have huge access restrictions placed on them. Just look at what has happened to the Kenai.

    Sorry for the rant, but what I saw going on down there Saturday was just pathetic.
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    I can't agree more with you on the trashing of public access areas. I went down to the Kasilof once several years back and haven't been back since due to the same problem. Maybe I just hit a bad day for both fish and trash, but I have rummaged through cleaner dumps than what thoughtless troglodytes were leaving. I was down to the south shore of Kenai on Tuesday and saw the same problems, not as bad yet, but getting there. Six fish in 9 hours on outgoing tide, by the way. I have seen better fishing there needless to say. Believe me, I am no prissy clean hands guy, I actually have quite a bit of dirt under my fingernails, but so help me folks, we are going to have to use some common sense and keep our areas clean or we are gong to get shut down, either by the governing bodies of the area, or the Health Department.

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    Thumbs up Can't seem to get the word out

    People, Clean up after yourselves. If you see the guy next to you being a slob, tell him. 5% of the people smear the rest of us. Don't be shy yelling at the guy next to you. He just might be the last straw that gets us all thrown off the beaches. Enough said. Ken

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