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    Default Turned up eye on sockeye flies

    Guys i was thinking about tying up some flies and wondering how the hookset is if you have hooks with turned up eyes. Should i buy some new hooks?

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    I never use the standard Russian/coho flies. I stick with a #2 Gamakatsu Octopus hook tied with an egg loop. Place a little yarn in the loop to make it legal. The #2 hook meets the 3/8" gap requirement for the "fly fish only" areas. Out of the "fly fish only" area I increase the hook size to a 3/0.
    The hooks are sharper and have a shorter shank allowing for much better hook sets than a coho fly, even with an upturned eye.

    Good luck.

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    I use the ol' black forged salmon irons with up-turned eyes, the classic Eagle Claw 1197 with down-turned eyes, octopus hooks, russian river hooks, straight eye glo-bug hooks - and I've never experienced any notable difference in hook ups. I don't think it matters.
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    I use the turned up eye quite a bit. I just tie them with a snell or double turle knot to allow a straight pull. I also use some straight eye hooks as well.

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    I have tied with several types as well and have not seen a difference.

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    Default Not legal in fly fishing only waters

    SORRY but using yarn in an egg loop is NOT LEGAL in fly fishing only areas!

    If you check the definition of a "fly" in the AS 16.05.940 & 5 ACC 47 - 5 ACC 75.955 the regs state that an artifical fly "means a fly which is constructed by common methods known as fly tying....".

    I will admit that I did this myself years ago until I learned that it is clearly not legal. I also found that the egg loop is not the best know strength-wise anyway.

    I thread a strand or two of yarn through the eye of the hook and then wrap and tie it at the head with thread like a standard Russian River fly except it has yarn instead of hair. Threading the yarn through the eye makes a nearly indistrucable fly as the yarn can't come loose.


    Quote Originally Posted by AK Wonderer View Post
    I never use the standard Russian/coho flies. I stick with a #2 Gamakatsu Octopus hook tied with an egg loop. Place a little yarn in the loop to make it legal. The #2 hook meets the 3/8" gap requirement for the "fly fish only" areas. Out of the "fly fish only" area I increase the hook size to a 3/0.
    The hooks are sharper and have a shorter shank allowing for much better hook sets than a coho fly, even with an upturned eye.

    Good luck.
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