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Thread: Deshka closed to kings... it's official

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    Default Deshka closed to kings... it's official

    EO issued by Dave Rutz:

    The Deshka River king salmon sport fishery will close at 6:00 a.m., Saturday, June 13, through the remainder of the king salmon sport fishing season.
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    Default Sorry to hear

    We were just there last night and there were a good number of fish rolling and jumping, more than we saw last year. Oh well, atleast now there will be less boat noise on the river while I'm sitting on my bait stands

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    No surprise there. Saw it coming.

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    Much as we all hate to see it happen, I'm glad it was closed. Let's hope it helps!!

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    Please lord let dave have the back bone to finnish off the little su.....

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    Has there been any talk of doing so? (shutting down the Little Su)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS View Post
    Has there been any talk of doing so? (shutting down the Little Su)
    Only on the forum. Fish and game have not even hinted at the possibility.
    It ain't about the # of pounds of meat we bring back, nor about how much we spent to go do it. Its about seeing what no one else sees.

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    question of curiosity... where would they get their data to justify shutting down the little su? the fish counts on the adfg website does not support king salmon wier counts on the little su.
    catch rates from guides? burma landing board counts of fish caught?

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    Most all fish that are caught in the lower river come through the parks check point,from there it goes to fish and game,and yes the numbers are way off..as of 6/8 150 fish were counted to date,normal rate would be between 400 and 700 dating back to the 03 season
    given the fact that we have more pressure then ever you would think the number would be higher. If anyone out there cares about our fishery please call dave rutz.....

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    preed: Sir there is no weir on the Little Su to count Kings. The weir above Burma Landing was removed quite a few years ago. It is now located above the Parks Hwy and primarily used to count Coho's. As stated the only counts available are the ones turned in to the Parks Service.

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    The unwritten Law of the Land is that no roadside fishery will ever be closed. That is the way it is, including the Little Su. Fish and Game don't have that much stroke in the grand scheme of things with the economy and the tourism industry.

    I am extremely please to see that Mr. Rutz was able to protect the remaining spawners in the Deshka though. The guides and a few of the locals were bent on taking the few fish that made it in. Makes you wonder about 'em sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akres View Post
    The unwritten Law of the Land is that no roadside fishery will ever be closed. That is the way it is, including the Little Su. Fish and Game don't have that much stroke in the grand scheme of things with the economy and the tourism industry.

    I am extremely please to see that Mr. Rutz was able to protect the remaining spawners in the Deshka though. The guides and a few of the locals were bent on taking the few fish that made it in. Makes you wonder about 'em sometimes.
    Where did you hear that unwritten law???????????????????

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    lets get a few things straight here,first off all the weir above the bridge is strickly for coho,we did at one time have a weir above slide hole,which was removed several years ago because the houston residents complained that they were not getting enough fish,so we went to counting fish by supercub...the unwritten rule must of been written after the late 70s when we had complete shut down of the hole susitna drainage due to lack of fish....anyhow i don't believe there is any unwritten rule,,,,

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    Default WOW!

    Someone else that remembers when there was no king fishing in any Susitna drainage streams...for quite a few years. It will happen again, one way or another!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skybust View Post
    Where did you hear that unwritten law???????????????????
    Meetings, meetings and more meetings.
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    And yet today, there were guides taking clients out to catch the few spawners left.
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    The entire Big Su and Yetna drainage should be closed

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    Quote Originally Posted by .300wby View Post
    Someone else that remembers when there was no king fishing in any Susitna drainage streams...for quite a few years. It will happen again, one way or another!
    I remember it also, all to well and yes it will happen again, one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBassking View Post
    The entire Big Su and Yetna drainage should be closed
    Then when it's opened back up, do it with some restrictions even though the runs are stronger, rather than a wide open slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retired Jim View Post
    Sir there is no weir on the Little Su to count Kings.
    yes i know this, thats why i posed the question. i wonder, the deshka kings come from the big su, so does every other stream willow sheep montana... if they come from the same herd why arent all these rivers closed? what makes "The Deshka" different? the little su doesnt come from the big su so is this another herd or the same herd. what monitors them? someone mentioned sighting them from a plane? id like to meet the guy who can count fish at 150-200mph.

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