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    Default Latest Kenai report.... Fri 5/29/09

    Here's the ADFG Kenai report... HOT OFF THE PRESS!

    http://www.sf.adfg.state.ak.us/Static/fishing_reports/PDFs/ERsumm.pdf

    If you want to catch one, it's all about the rod hours. Keep those lines wet, folks!
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    If I'm reading this report correctly, the unguided anglers are kicking the guided anglers butts! 87 hours per fish for non-guided, and 125 hours per fish for guided..... Did I read that right?
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    So anglers have killed 25 fish and there are 922 in the river. Hmmmm...... I don't have a calculator on me but that is a very low percentage. About 3% or so, if my mind math is working this late at night. Also with 47 being caught and only 25 killed there must be some slot fish or a bunch of dinks, I am leaning toward slot fish as I have heard of some being released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw3 View Post
    If I'm reading this report correctly, the unguided anglers are kicking the guided anglers butts! 87 hours per fish for non-guided, and 125 hours per fish for guided..... Did I read that right?
    Yeah, you guys must really suck this year, Mark! Well, at least some of you.

    Quote Originally Posted by yukon View Post
    Also with 47 being caught and only 25 killed there must be some slot fish or a bunch of dinks, I am leaning toward slot fish as I have heard of some being released.
    Or some bonafide discretionary C&R of non-slot fish. You know, folks actually releasing bonkable fish rather than just the ones they are legally mandated to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markw3 View Post
    If I'm reading this report correctly, the unguided anglers are kicking the guided anglers butts! 87 hours per fish for non-guided, and 125 hours per fish for guided..... Did I read that right?
    This isn't surprising... the guides are out most every day despite the weather, tides, water color, sonar counts, etc. The unguided angler will often cherry pick the good peak days when all indications are that the fishing is hot.

    While I agree that the unguided angler in general is becoming more and more skilled and effective, the guide will typically have the upper hand, simply because they are out every day and have the river and fish dialed in. So, don't let the numbers fool you....

    p.s. Mark, my suspicion is that this was tongue in cheek... thanks for the ribbing and the smiles.

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    HERE THEY COME!

    353 kings counted by the sonar y'day!

    The last three days passage has done wonders for the projection (based purely on a run-timing model).

    In-river projection now stands at 10.3K. At 25% exploitation,the escapement projection is now 7.7K.

    Looks like BEG is securely in the bag. Anyone else smell bait around the corner?
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    Just a few days ago I was wondering if we might see catch and release around the corner, and now there's a chance we could even see bait early.... it's strange though, although the counts have increased 5 fold in the last couple days, the fishing has been very slow still... Landed a 42 inch hen today, but only saw 2 other fish caught, and it was the busiest day thusfar. I was seeing about the same (2 fish per day) thing even when we were only getting 40-70 fish each day.
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    More pressure today so more pieces of the pie shared by others. I saw 10 or so caught today and several others that got away. I saw two slot fish released today as well...

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    I must have been in the wrong places at the wrong times... I did land one, but only saw two others landed in 6 hours. Where were you fishing iceblue?
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    Early on I saw one come out of Porters, one out of airplane, then went down to Crossover and saw a three or four caught on the incoming, bounced up to Eagle Rock (Toilet) saw a handful more caught as tide hit the high, ran back to Porters saw one more there, worked airplane for a little bit saw another one there, went back down to Toilet and saw three or four more before calling it a day. Never did fish Honeymoon or Fall n Hole today. Best bite today seemed to be by following the tide in and then back out again. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

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    I must have been running away from the bite today I guess... I got mine at Honeymoon, and saw the other two at Toilet Hole and Airplane. Only saw one other boat get bit and miss it. I must have been one or two holes away from the bite all day. Oh well
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    Landed the third slot king of the season in my boat today. Nice 49 inch buck that was caught by a Sterling resident that has 1000's of hours of fishing the Kenai River under his belt. He also just got home from spending the winter dealing with cancer treatment. Another guide boat, Joe Hanes, was going by and stopped to take a picture from his boat for the guy even though Hanes did not know him or his story. It was a pretty cool thing for Hanes to do and the guys in my boat raved about how neat it was that someone would stop and take a few minutes to do this for someone else as a picture from another boat offers a angle that just cannot be had from within the boat with the fish in the net.
    I can say that if I am on the river and see someone trying to take pictures of a fish that they intend to release that I will offer to help with the camera if they will let me. Thanks Joe.

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    Default Great idea

    Ice blue, Those words are SSSOOOO true. I agree with you, very hard to get a good picture from the boat of a fish you are going to release. Whats the chance we could get a few more people to try this!!!

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    Default thanks for the update

    I will throw in my observations and experience for the day. There were more boats and there were more fish caught then the last couple of days, and I share iceblues feeling on the tide. We started out at honeymoon at 6am and missed one right out of the gate on a cheater. Around 730 went down to the toilet hole and fished the incoming tide. Saw about 5 hooked out of 10 boats and boxed a chromer at around 830. Fished the tide out at the toilet, and saw a couple more on between 830 and 10. Took a break (someone decided a beer run was in order) and got back out around 1130. By shortly after lunch the boats all but disappeared. We scratched around and had 2 drivebys. We caught a clone of the first fish at honeymoon at around 330 and boxed it. Called it a day. Congrats iceblue on helping that gentleman find that fish. If your like me that's what makes all the work and "dues paying" worth it. Here's to hoping they keep coming!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw3 View Post
    If I'm reading this report correctly, the unguided anglers are kicking the guided anglers butts! 87 hours per fish for non-guided, and 125 hours per fish for guided..... Did I read that right?
    Is this right? That would be only 1 fish per 15 guided 8 hour days. I landed 4 kings to 35 lbs in 4 hours last summer on the Talkeetna, and it was my first time king fishing on a river, ever. Am I lucky, good , or is something particularly difficult about Kenai kings?

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    Nice reports, gents... thanks for sharing!

    "Fishing" vicariously thru all of you.

    Spent most of my day dealing with motor problems on my sled... starved for fuel, bearings on the jet pump, and discovered a new oil leak when I got her home.

    Maybe time to replace the main motor?
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    Default Wife's first king

    Wife got her first king(on a rod&reel)ever today. Went out with a great guy by the name of Kyle. I missed the 1 hit I had. Wife lost 1 around 7:30, was a brute, had it on for about 4 minutes. She ended up with hers just below airplane around 11:00. We spent about 30 minutes helping a guy get his boat off a gravel bar around noon. Fished a little while longer, but nothing and then had to head home. Was great out there today, besides as I tell those who ask - the fishing is ALWAYS great though sometimes the catching is slow.
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    I feel your pain doc, my Yami 90 jet is at the mechanics right now getting bearings in the jet, and probably a new shaft as well. I guess it is only money.
    BTW, if you fix your and decide to sell it let me know.

    Not only that, while those guys are out fishing, I am watching the Kenai go by and I haven't wet a line yet.

    One more thing, even with the decent reports, lets say generous assumption of 30 fish were caught today, that is still probably and exploitation of less than 10%.

    My guess, bait on the 9th. Maybe earlier. If the numbers keep up there is a good chance for Saturday, June 6th. No inside info, just a guess.


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    Nice reports, gents... thanks for sharing!

    "Fishing" vicariously thru all of you.

    Spent most of my day dealing with motor problems on my sled... starved for fuel, bearings on the jet pump, and discovered a new oil leak when I got her home.

    Maybe time to replace the main motor?

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    Dandeo2003 to your wife catching her 1st king. Nice looking fish.
    Hopefully we'll get our 1st one this summer too!
    Lord knows it won't be for lack of trying

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    Hey Fishfood. I bet if you went to the same spot on the Talkeetna River right now your success rate would not be nearly as good as it was last summer. My point is that it is still early in the season and things are just starting to happen. Rod hours versus landed kings should pick up big time in next week or so for all king anglers on the Kenai so just give it a little time to heat up.

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