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    Default Do Sport Jon's Need To Be Coast Guard Certified?

    I have a 2004 21' Phantom Sport Jon and I am going to be taking it to Valdez this month and I was wondering if it has to be coast guard certified?

    If it does, what do I need for the certification?

    Thanks, Russ

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    Default If boarded....

    You need to have the required equipment on board. Don't have the list here with me, but it included life preservers for everyone aboard (inflatibles have to be worn to be counted...), a throwable like a ring or a cushion with handles you can tie a rope to, horn, flares, vents on motor if inboard or inboard/outdrive, fire extinguisher etc. You can read a list on the coast guard site.

    If boarded at sea or at the dock, they will give you a sticker if you pass inspection. Not sure if you don't I've always made sure I passed....maybe they give a warning. Sometimes the coast guard auxilary meets you at the dock or boat ramp and asks if you want a courtesy inspection, they do the same thing, and give you a different sticker, but usually if the CG sees it they won't board and inspect you.

    I guess you better not have any drugs, cases of guns, or other illegal stuff if they board you!

    But....you are not required to be certified in any way to just go out and boat or fish. You only need prior certification if you are running a charter.

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    if you are talking about the metal placard put on by builder, i beleive so.
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    AK #'S , THEY USE TO BE REGULATED BY USCG, I BELIEVE???? NOW BY EACH STATE, DMV IN ALASKA, AND YES THAT IS REQUIRED.
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    I'm not exactly sure what you are asking about coast guard certification.

    Every power boat needs to be registered with the dmv, doesn't matter if it's a 8' inflatable or 30' cabin cruiser. It also doesn't matter if you use it in the ocean, lake or river. It's $25 for 3 years, just a trip to the DMV with the title and you're done.

    Documented vessels are 5 net tons and over, so this doesn't apply to you.

    The coast guard auxiliary does free vessel safety checks (VSC), and when you pass they give you a nifty sticker



    It is not required to get a VSC, but is highly recomended. Your odds of being boarded for a safety inspection go down imensly, but most importantly you have someone go over your boat to make sure you have the required safety equipment on board. Here's an online check you can do yourself http://www.uscgboating.org/SAFETY/vsc/vsc_a.html you won't get the sticker, but it'll let you know what they are looking for and what you need to carry.

    And the summary sheet that you need to abide by http://www.uscgboating.org/safety/fe...u_refchart.htm

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    Default Federal and State carraige requirements for recreational boaters

    Here are both Federal and State (minimum) carraige requirements. Most of the water in Alaska falls under both Fed/State jurisdiction, so you'll need to be aware of all the rules. If you have questions about the specifics where you boat, either post or send me a PM.

    Please remember, these are the minimums; from a practical survival standpoint, several other items are highly recommended, including a marine VHF radio, a suitable anchor and sufficient rode for your boat and the area you are boating in, a quality first aid kit (and training!), a float plan for every trip, extra food/water and most of all, common sense!

    Last Wednesday, two teenagers died near Haines when their canoe overturned in rough seas. One made it to shore and survived. All of them were reported wearing life jackets; however, the time from the mishap to the time rescue arrived was long enough that the PFD's did not contribute to their survival....remember that a life jacket only 'buys' you time; if you are unable to summon assistance or self-rescue, the cold water will eventually kill you. It is our recommendation that you purchase a life jacket that will allow you to carry at least flares, a signal mirror, whistle and a handheld VHF radio (or other effective means of communications) in the pockets. If your "last ditch" survival gear is inaccessible when you fall overboard or capsize, your chances of surviving are quickly diminished. Learn how to use your safety equipment, learn about cold water immersion, learn how to self-rescue and use sound risk-managment techniques. This (and more) information is available from the State Office of Boating Safety at http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/boating/index.htm or through the Coast Guard Auxiliary at http://a170.uscgaux.info/ If you have more questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Boat Safe!

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    OK, thanks for the info everyone. I will guess I will have to call down there in valdez and find out for sure if it has to be certified befor I go. But I will have the requirments in my boat anyway for my own sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerruss View Post
    OK, thanks for the info everyone. I will guess I will have to call down there in valdez and find out for sure if it has to be certified befor I go. But I will have the requirments in my boat anyway for my own sake.
    Since your boat is over 20 feet in length it does not require a coast guard certification placard like you normally see on smaller boats stating the max horse power and carrying capacity.

    But you do not the list of emergency supplies as posted above as well as having your boat registered by the DMV.

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    Yes it is registerd at the DMV. But I didn't quit understand the other part. You said that it does not need the sticker but it needs the supplies?
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    Since your boat is over 20 feet in length it does not require a coast guard certification placard like you normally see on smaller boats stating the max horse power and carrying capacity.

    But you do not the list of emergency supplies as posted above as well as having your boat registered by the DMV.

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    Thats what happens when you type too fast and forget to have your editor check it for you.

    I was supposed to type that you do need the required list of emergency supplies as posted above(flares, first aid kit, mounted fire extinguisher, etc) Make sure your flares are not expired as well or you will get dinged for that.

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    No Problem, I figured thats what happened and no I already got the list. I just need to get a few more things before I go.

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    As stated above, nearly all waters in Alaska fall under Fed/State regs so you have are required to have the safety equipment whether you are on the Chena river or in PWS. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard of troopers and F&G inspecting folks on interior waters also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishin_ak View Post
    As stated above, nearly all waters in Alaska fall under Fed/State regs so you have are required to have the safety equipment whether you are on the Chena river or in PWS. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard of troopers and F&G inspecting folks on interior waters also.
    You are correct they are state wide boating requirements not just salt water but it does seem that the Coast Guard takes a lot more interest in boating safety than everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerruss View Post
    OK, thanks for the info everyone. I will guess I will have to call down there in valdez and find out for sure if it has to be certified befor I go.
    Two thoughts...

    1. Who are you going to call?

    2. I'd like be a fly on the wall for that conversation.


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    Yes the boat will need #s applied, sticker on (not an inspection sticker but the one handed to you with your registration), and safety gear...this is mandatory for anything 16' or longer in any waterway.

    As mentioned above, any power boat even a 8' dingy will need the #s and registration.

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    I called an avid boater buddy in Valdez the other day just to confirm everything. He said the same thing most of you said. Your boat dosen't need to be certified but you do need the saftey equipment on board.

    If you get boarded by the Coast Guard they can give you a slap on the wrist or even a ticket if you dont have the gear.

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    I think the confusion you're having may center around the difference between your boat registration sticker, a coast guard inspection sticker - and the 'certification' of a boat itself (i.e., the data plate that talks about maximum HP, load, persons, etc...)

    as you've been told and confirmed for yourself -
    • register it with DMV and apply numbers and registration sticker
    • carry the required safety equipment
    • you're good to go

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