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    Question First load development for the '06. Any tips???

    I've got everything together: resized the cases, trimmed all to same length, deburred, cleaned primer pocket, deburred flash hole etc... Now I'm ready to actually start load development. I'll be shooting all rounds from the same Rem 700. I'm going to start with H4350, Federal 210 primers and 165 Grain ballistic tips. Was thinking of loading three rounds with 54 grains, 3 with 54.5, 3 with 55 etc... all with the bullet seated at the maximum length until I find a decently accurate round and then play with the seating depth. Does this make sense at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeStaten View Post
    I've got everything together: resized the cases, trimmed all to same length, deburred, cleaned primer pocket, deburred flash hole etc... Now I'm ready to actually start load development. I'll be shooting all rounds from the same Rem 700. I'm going to start with H4350, Federal 210 primers and 165 Grain ballistic tips. Was thinking of loading three rounds with 54 grains, 3 with 54.5, 3 with 55 etc... all with the bullet seated at the maximum length until I find a decently accurate round and then play with the seating depth. Does this make sense at all?

    Thanks,
    Mike
    Sounds like you are off to a good start and I only have 2 suggestions for now.

    1> Only change one thing at a time so you are more sure of what made a problem.

    2> Tell us what bullet and powder you are using as well as what you want (hunt, compete, etc) from it. From there someone may have a better starting point for you and save you some time.

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeStaten View Post
    I've got everything together: resized the cases, trimmed all to same length, deburred, cleaned primer pocket, deburred flash hole etc... Now I'm ready to actually start load development. I'll be shooting all rounds from the same Rem 700. I'm going to start with H4350, Federal 210 primers and 165 Grain ballistic tips. Was thinking of loading three rounds with 54 grains, 3 with 54.5, 3 with 55 etc... all with the bullet seated at the maximum length until I find a decently accurate round and then play with the seating depth. Does this make sense at all?

    Thanks,
    Mike
    Sounds good to me. 57gr of H4350 and CCI 200's ended up being the best load in a Ruger M77 Hawkeye 30-06 that I load for. COL was 3.365, .025 longer than SAMMI max. I used the Accubond, it's the same shape and BC as the Ballistic Tips. The Accubond has a thicker skin, it should go a bit deeper before it opens up.

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    It will be used for whitetails, and the occacional black bear. 99% of shots will be within 150 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeStaten View Post
    I've got everything together: resized the cases, trimmed all to same length, deburred, cleaned primer pocket, deburred flash hole etc... Now I'm ready to actually start load development. I'll be shooting all rounds from the same Rem 700. I'm going to start with H4350, Federal 210 primers and 165 Grain ballistic tips. Was thinking of loading three rounds with 54 grains, 3 with 54.5, 3 with 55 etc... all with the bullet seated at the maximum length until I find a decently accurate round and then play with the seating depth. Does this make sense at all?

    Thanks,
    Mike
    hi mike; sounds like you have this reload business pretty well figured out, but i have a suggestion for you. as wacky as the market is these days i suggest you find a QUANTITY source of powder, then develop your loads. that way the ammunition can be duplicated.

    i recently started using 4831 as an alternate to my favorite of 4350, because it is available in quantity. since i like 165gr-180gr in the 2700fps range, this hasn't been a hardship.

    **without being a hoarder, i look for components and buy when available.

    best of luck to you!
    happy trails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinehavensredrocket View Post
    hi mike; sounds like you have this reload business pretty well figured out, but i have a suggestion for you. as wacky as the market is these days i suggest you find a QUANTITY source of powder, then develop your loads. that way the ammunition can be duplicated.

    i recently started using 4831 as an alternate to my favorite of 4350, because it is available in quantity. since i like 165gr-180gr in the 2700fps range, this hasn't been a hardship.

    **without being a hoarder, i look for components and buy when available.

    best of luck to you!
    This is good advice. It doesn't do much good to work up a load only to find that you will have problems duplicating it because you can't get powder. That is precisely the reason I use only 2 different powders for my hunting rifles (4831 and 4064). I've never had problems getting them (even recently), and they perform well in the guns I use. I also buy my powder in 8 lb. jugs and start thinking about getting more when I get down to a couple pounds.
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    Does powder go bad after awhile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeStaten View Post
    Does powder go bad after awhile?
    if stored properly (not too hot, and out of the sun) in a dark container it will be good for many years. 25+

    bad powder has a sour smell and a rusty color, instead of dark and "shiny" black.
    happy trails.
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    I can't imagine how bad life would be without a good 30-06 and a bunch of H4350 powder. I use 58.0 grains in Lapua brass with CCI-200's or Fed-210M's and any 160 to 170 grain bullet. I've never been disappointed with the results. Life is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeStaten View Post
    Does powder go bad after awhile?

    Yes, it does. But not for a long, LONG, LONG time. Storage in a cool, dry, and dark environment is key. I just sold some H4831 powder, manufactured during WWII, that was still entirely good and useable...


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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeStaten View Post
    I've got everything together: resized the cases, trimmed all to same length, deburred, cleaned primer pocket, deburred flash hole etc... Now I'm ready to actually start load development. I'll be shooting all rounds from the same Rem 700. I'm going to start with H4350, Federal 210 primers and 165 Grain ballistic tips. Was thinking of loading three rounds with 54 grains, 3 with 54.5, 3 with 55 etc... all with the bullet seated at the maximum length until I find a decently accurate round and then play with the seating depth. Does this make sense at all?

    Thanks,
    Mike

    The 165gr is also my preferred weight in the 30-06. H4350/IMR4350 are both really hard to beat in an 'o6, but I've found that Reloader 22 gives better velocity (quite a bit better) Get a pound of it and try it...
    Like, how does just over 3000fps sound? (in a 22" barrel) (and still a grain under max, per the listed in manual)


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    57 gr. 4350, 180 nosler partition in 30-06. Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim in anchorage View Post
    57 gr. 4350, 180 nosler partition in 30-06. Done.
    Yep...good load! Used 56grs same powder/same bullet, for years and years and years, with really great results...hard to beat.

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    56 Grains of H4350 is a laser beam in my Remmy 700 with a 168 grain Nosler Combined Technologies bullet.




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    Win94,

    That's some nice shooting...

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    Ditto on the shooting. Nice XCR...

    Ron

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