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    Default What is the best cold blue you have used?

    I have been doing soem small parts with paste cold blue which are coming out OK as long as I heat up the metal with a heat gun or base-board heater. Plus apply multi coats...

    How good is the old Herters stuff that Midway sells?
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    I've used Brownells Oxpho, Blue Wonder and they both are alright as far as "cold" blue goes. In time it seems it does not wear well and seems to fade quite quickly. Of late I have been getting great results with Laurel Mtn. Forge Brown&Degreaser and Pilks Rust bluing....especially on small parts. Hot bluing is better if you can find someone locally. Do it yourself ventures eventually will expand to "rust" bluing or browning...it did for me anyways.

    If memory serves me correctly I think Blue Wonder did better than Oxpho. Bought it over at Frontier Outfitters.

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    I tried ordering this stuff but can't get it sent here.







    This is the original Herter's Belgian Blue formula, now owned by Art's Gun & Sport Shop, and the results are just as nice as ever. A desirable choice for bluing soft soldered doubles and for the occasional rebluer who can't afford/doesn't want a hot salts bluing set- up. Applies easily: Clean the gun thoroughly, boil the metal in water, remove, wipe dry and gently swab on Belgian Blue, with no slops or runs. Return to the boiling water for a few minutes, then remove and card with fine steel wool. Repeat these steps until the desired color is achieved. Works on all gun steels except stainless. Instruction sheet included.
    SPECS: Pint (16 oz./473ml) and Quart (32 oz./946ml) available.

    Catalog page 343
    Cannot ship outside Continental United States. Ship UPS Ground only within U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Float Pilot View Post



    Catalog page 343
    Cannot ship outside Continental United States. Ship UPS Ground only within U.S.


    I have problems with that statement. Since when is AK not on the North American Continent??? I don't remember having to cross water by a ferry to drive up here!!! The USGS (and several others) defines the Continental US to include the 48 "Contiguous" states and Alaska. I've battled several eBay sellers and companies to that definition. So far, I've been able to get items shipped that are typically meant for the contiguous states; many of which have changed their shipping policies shortly after I have received my order.

    May be worth while to challenge them with that definition. You never know unless you try.

    I checked this thread as I've got one firearm that I'm thinking about re-bluing in the near future. I'll keep an eye on this one for additional details when it comes time for me to get mine done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Float Pilot View Post
    I tried ordering this stuff but can't get it sent here.







    This is the original Herter's Belgian Blue formula, now owned by Art's Gun & Sport Shop, and the results are just as nice as ever. A desirable choice for bluing soft soldered doubles and for the occasional rebluer who can't afford/doesn't want a hot salts bluing set- up. Applies easily: Clean the gun thoroughly, boil the metal in water, remove, wipe dry and gently swab on Belgian Blue, with no slops or runs. Return to the boiling water for a few minutes, then remove and card with fine steel wool. Repeat these steps until the desired color is achieved. Works on all gun steels except stainless. Instruction sheet included.
    SPECS: Pint (16 oz./473ml) and Quart (32 oz./946ml) available.

    Catalog page 343
    Cannot ship outside Continental United States. Ship UPS Ground only within U.S.


    I have some of this and really like it. I've done some knives and various gun parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Float Pilot View Post
    I tried ordering this stuff but can't get it sent here.







    This is the original Herter's Belgian Blue formula, now owned by Art's Gun & Sport Shop, and the results are just as nice as ever. A desirable choice for bluing soft soldered doubles and for the occasional rebluer who can't afford/doesn't want a hot salts bluing set- up. Applies easily: Clean the gun thoroughly, boil the metal in water, remove, wipe dry and gently swab on Belgian Blue, with no slops or runs. Return to the boiling water for a few minutes, then remove and card with fine steel wool. Repeat these steps until the desired color is achieved. Works on all gun steels except stainless. Instruction sheet included.
    SPECS: Pint (16 oz./473ml) and Quart (32 oz./946ml) available.

    Catalog page 343
    Cannot ship outside Continental United States. Ship UPS Ground only within U.S.

    Maybe a buddy in the lower 48 could send you some? *wink*

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    I know it's an old thread but... I'd be happy to forward some if you have it sent to me in NH this winter first. As long as the carrier will accept the package without violating their policies.

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    I think that UPS has started ground UPS shipments to Alaska. My last supersaver on Cabelas was shipped ground. I think we should experiment and see if we can get ammo through ground UPS.

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    Per the OP... Oxpho-Blue applied to VERY hot metal stomps anything I have used. I used the Herter stuff for many years and dropped it for Oxpho-Blue. There are some metals that do not do well and there may be some situations where the different blues would work better or worse than the other.

    I pour lots of boiling water on the part and get it far too hot to handle bare-handed. But still a long way from hot enough to melt solder...
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    I second that if some one can get some up here I want some running low!

    I use hot water also. Great for touch blends nicely with orig. blue.

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    I have used oxpho for decades but no longer as I just do a complete bluing with rust blue Using Mark Lee Express blue #1. I have a friend that will mail it to me from the lesser 48. No hassles at all this way. You will find it from Brownells. This just beats any and all bluing methods hands down.
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