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    The 416 Murphy with special serial number.
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    A couple more shots. The cutlery is a Bob Dozier classic with African black wood.
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    Just a couple more. The front sight is NECG and has a flip up/down moon glow large white bead called a leopard sight. It does stay down when shooting and may be as much of a novelty as a functional item. The bolt on this action is a true pre-64/ Mauser hybrid. A forged chunk of steel CNCed to precise dims. This shot shows the drop box magazine needed to hold three of the fat body 404 Jeffery based rounds. The rifle delivers true 416 Rigby/Remington performance, 400 grains at 2400 fps. The barrel is at 23", the Scope mounts will be Talley for the 8x40 screws for extra stick and of course detachable. My one inch rings will hold the Leupold 1.5-5x20 VXIII with European #4 reticle.

    I have a matched set of these rifles, the other in 404 Dakota caliber with hand selected wood from the same tree. And yes it will go to the wilds next summer but likely never to the brown bear coast of Alaska. I do have a synthetic stock fitted to the rifle but can't bring myself to swap out this fine chunk of French wlanut.
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    Nice lookin rig Murphy, hows it shoot? I recall reading about the 416 Murphy a while back...416 Ruger with the shoulder pushed forward as I recall, kind of an AI version? Can you fire factory 416 Ruger ammo as well? anyway, looks sweet, good job on a nice rig. Any plans to use it this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDude View Post
    Nice lookin rig Murphy, hows it shoot? I recall reading about the 416 Murphy a while back...416 Ruger with the shoulder pushed forward as I recall, kind of an AI version? Can you fire factory 416 Ruger ammo as well? anyway, looks sweet, good job on a nice rig. Any plans to use it this season?

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    Thanks for the comments.

    I probably won't hunt with it until next year in Zambia on cape buffalo, or if I can get in to Zimbabwe for elephant.

    And to set the record straight the 416 Murphy is based on the 404 Jeffery case not the 375 Ruger case. It has greater case capacity and will deliver the goods. I shot it a bit over the range last fall when I first got it and the 350 grain Woodleigh's cut one hole and the 400 grain dead tough soft points opened things up to a full inch. I'll take that in a small bore rifle like that. I haven't tried solids yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

    And to set the record straight the 416 Murphy is based on the 404 Jeffery case not the 375 Ruger case... the 350 grain Woodleigh's cut one hole and the 400 grain dead tough soft points opened things up to a full inch.
    My apologies Murphy, cartridge sounds like a solid performer...to bad you cant get your rifle to shoot

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    Phenomenal! That certainly wasn't cheap to put together! Did you do the stock work yourself or have it custom made? That's a very nice piece of wood. Classic lines. You've got good taste, Murphy!

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    Murphy, it is beautiful. What does it weigh in at?

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    That's a rubber gun Murphy! Ya "rubber" in our faces...hope the drool doesn't short out this keyboard. Man, what a beautiful beast (the gun). Hope you get to put it to the test...I know it'll do everything and more that you want it to. Good luck.
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    Thumbs up Wow!

    Now that is what I call a man's rifle. Very nice.

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    Thats a beaut....I also love the lines of the wood grain. I may be stupid, but cannot figure out the significance of 14OCT2009....care to share?

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    To answer a few of the questions;

    I didn't make, it my only contribution was to pick out the stock blank.

    This is the Dakota 76 Safari, made by the good folks at Dakota Arms.

    The stock is the Don Allen design, the long reach is not only graceful but moves the hand out of the way of the trigger guard and bolt knob. The straight lines also serve to reduce felt recoil a bunch.

    This one weighs in at 8# six ounces, naked. Scope and mounts are about 1.5#. This makes a trim package for a rifle in this power level.

    And last but not least, the 14OCT2009 is my retirement date or specifically my thirty years of gov't service. Of course there was about 14 years of civilian service, too.

    This is truly a custom rifle with many of my own features and deminsions, but is an off the shelf model for Dakota. Wood selection, LOP, barrel length, sights, swivel studs are all options. I do not believe ever was designed or made a better rifle action. Thanks for you interest and comments.
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    As I recall, the Dakota 416 is also based on the 404 Jeffery. What is the difference between the two.....perhaps case length?

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    Default 416 Murphy, plus the Dakota M97....

    Hey, Murphy....

    Your newest rifle is a fantastic example of art for men. It's quite beautiful. And performs!
    I've seen your Dakota 76 in 404 Dakota, and drooled. Jack O'Connor would be envious.

    I have a M97 in 330 Dakota. Bought the barreled action from Dakota, and had Brown Precision stock it with one of their fiberglass stocks. (I've used Brown stocks since 1978 and like them. They fit me and they last through rough use.) It's a relatively expensive, workman's rifle. The M97 made a beautiful rifle, in the current synthetic stock idiom. The rifle is accurate, and shoots most of my handloads into 1" or less, but then I'm not aiming for max velocity. (My current hunting load is a 230 grain FailSafe over H4350 @ about 2900 fps.) Makes a great moose rifle. And weighs 8#3oz. with a 1.5x5 Leupold in Talley QD mounts. T originally put a 3x10x42 Swarovski on it, but didn't like it, if you can believe that. Bought another 1.5x5 Leupold. It's been good for caribou out to 350 yards; having tried any longer shots, yet.

    I second Murphy's recommendation of the M97 he noted.

    Anyone new here should alway listen to Murphy's advise .... it's sterling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shphtr View Post
    As I recall, the Dakota 416 is also based on the 404 Jeffery. What is the difference between the two.....perhaps case length?
    Yep case length. The almost defunct 416 Dakota is the full length 404 improved and shouldered at 30 degrees. It requires their full length Africa action. The 7mm through 375 Dakota and the 404 Dakota use a 404 Jeffery based case of 2.570" in length and OAL is 3.4", 30-06 length. This 416 is what they should have made, the 2.570" case length and using bullets for the 416 Remington, loads to 3.400" OAL. Before the 416 Dakota was on the market I spoke with Don Allen at the SHOT show some years back and tried to incourage him to make this shorter 416. Their full length version was in the works and he voiced concerns about ammo mix up when I suggested naming it the 416 Dakota #2 or 416 Dakota short.

    I discussed the idea with Ward Dobler at Dakota a couple of years ago and he said as long as it isn't called a 416 Dakota anything, they would chamber for it. A call to Dave Manson of Manson Precision Reamers started the ball rolling. Dave finalized the reamer drawing for me and a copy of it went to Redding to make the dies and has recently gone to Quality Cartridge to make the 416 Murphy head stamped brass. The project from the discussion with Ward to finished rifle was about one year in the making.

    This 404 Jeffery case is the one Ken Howell worked with for several of his developments including the 416 Howell. His uses a 2.500" case and only minor other dimensional differences. The case is very strong and beltless with a full Jeffery rim for good extractor grip.

    This was for my retirement and will be used for four of the big five if plans come together for me.
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    Nice looking rifle !! Sounds like it really performs and should easily conquer the BIG FIVE. AT LEAST you picked out a nice retirement present for yourself; none of that namby-pamby ROLEX stuff.
    Hope the busted leg doesn't slow down your planned upcomeing hunt.
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    Take a look at this photo from the custom shop of John Bolliger out of Pocatello Idaho...Hiaring Rifles is not at this level yet, but someday we hope to be.
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    Murphy your new rifle is a work of art and will perform as well in the field as in the gun safe! Good job.

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    Murphy, that is a beautiful, well performing rifle you have there. when I win the lottery, i will add one to my collection... stainless and synthetic of course.

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    Sure is a pretty gun ...man, I'd like to own that! Pure gun porn...

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