Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 29

Thread: Best way to store 600' of leaded line?

  1. #1
    Member Larsenvega's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    348

    Default Best way to store 600' of leaded line?

    I've done a bit of searching on here and have not been able to come up with a decent idea for how to store my 600 feet of leaded line (1/4" 3-strand) that I use for shrimping. I will be doing it from a 22' C-Dory, but more often will take out my 12.5' Zodiac to pull the pots when the family stays behind. Neither have a ton of deck space, which is why I am trying to figure this out. I have heard that it is possible to store the line in a 5-gallon bucket, but since I pull by hand I cannot see myself being able to properly coil it to make it fit. Any ideas are much appreciated!

  2. #2
    Member ken210's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Somewhere hot and dusty
    Posts
    156

    Default

    I use a small garden hose reel I bought from lowes or home depot I dont remember which. But if you're going to be doing it all by yourself it might be a lil hard to do.

  3. #3
    Member akriverrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Chugiak, Alaska, United States, United States
    Posts
    754

    Default

    get a 30 gall plastic drum and coil it in there, stomp on it get it smashed down good and cut off any extra barrel. dont forget to drill some drain holes in it.

  4. #4
    Member DRIFTER_016's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Yellowknife, NWT
    Posts
    3,319

    Default

    How about a round laundry basket, not exactly tough but it might work. For the few bucks they cost it might be worth a try.

  5. #5
    Member akdeweyj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Anchorage
    Posts
    574

    Thumbs up Wash Tub

    Quote Originally Posted by Larsenvega View Post
    I've done a bit of searching on here and have not been able to come up with a decent idea for how to store my 600 feet of leaded line (1/4" 3-strand) that I use for shrimping. I will be doing it from a 22' C-Dory, but more often will take out my 12.5' Zodiac to pull the pots when the family stays behind. Neither have a ton of deck space, which is why I am trying to figure this out. I have heard that it is possible to store the line in a 5-gallon bucket, but since I pull by hand I cannot see myself being able to properly coil it to make it fit. Any ideas are much appreciated!
    Buy yourself an 18 gallon plastic washtub @ Lowes, Homey Depot, Fred Meyers, Wally World, etc. They have two handles on them for mobility & 600' of line fits nicely in them. Cost was less than $20 last summer.

  6. #6
    Member Larsenvega's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    348

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ken210 View Post
    I use a small garden hose reel I bought from lowes or home depot I dont remember which. But if you're going to be doing it all by yourself it might be a lil hard to do.
    This might be a pretty good option. If I'm pulling the pot by hand and a friend reels the slack rope onto the hose reel, things would probably stay neat and compact on the deck. I had thought about the laundry baskets, but wanted something that takes up the least space possible.

  7. #7

    Default

    you can coil exactly 100 fathoms of 5/16's 3 strand into a 5 gal bucket,but you have to know what your doing,and it would take 2 people ideally.Since you most likely havent the experience of coiling line commercialy,Id go with a round or rectangular basket.
    Twisted strand line has a "lay",which ideally is clockwise,but you cant fight it,if it wants to go counter,than roll with it.It would be hard to describe how to properly coil line,it would be much easier to show you.
    But even then it will take a while for you to master it,but at least you could see how its done professionally.When it gets down to it,you really dont need a container,but for somebody that doesnt know how to coil it will make it much easier,also safer from the zodiac.
    I live in the Valley,shoot me a message and perhaps we can hook up,Ill give you a crash course in dealing with bouy line.Ill show you how to splice too if you want,give you something to do during the winter.

    ak4195

  8. #8
    Member ken210's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Somewhere hot and dusty
    Posts
    156

    Default

    Larsenvega,
    When I get back to Eagle river I'll pm you and you can come by and check out the set up f you want.

    Ken

  9. #9

    Default

    For the last 5 or so years I have used heavy duty plastic trash bags. As you're pulling in the line, just feed it into the bag. Don't need to coil it. I have never had any problems with the line getting tangled when putting it back out.

  10. #10
    Member MRFISH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Anchorage
    Posts
    1,315

    Default fish baskets

    lv, I've been using these for a number of years now...it's pretty much like the laundry basket suggestion, but these are much tougher. I like them because they drain well (good for a fresh water rinse, if you want) and all the slots let the rope dry well between uses.

    I can't remember where I got mine. Maybe Donalson Co. carries something like this. They may have other suggestions, as well. They sell a lot of rope to folks going shrimping.

    Here's a pic I found on the web:
    http://store.vernondeon.com/index.ph...&ID=95&PID=156

  11. #11
    Member Alaska Gray's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Anchorage, Alaska, United States
    Posts
    4,925

    Default

    I use a plastic storage container 20 gal.
    This is very easy if the line is wet. The line will fall and it doesn't matter how the line falls in. I use to try to make circles but that was time consuming. Once it gets full I step on it and I have more room. I never had the line tangle.
    Living the Alaskan Dream
    Gary Keller
    Anchorage, AK

  12. #12
    Member breausaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Anchorage
    Posts
    830

    Default

    I totally agree with Alaska Gray, you donít need to coil the line just let is fall in the bucket. I use one of those large round plastic garden tubs you find at Home Depot or Lowes, think itís a 15 or 20 gal type.

    Fished commercial 24hr halibut openers back in the 80s with tub gear, we never intentionally coiled our line, but when using round tubs it tends coil naturally.

    If you havenít bought your line yet Steve the Pot Builder sells a non-leaded sinking line thatís easy to work with, good price also.

    Not much room in them C-dory cockpits, keep it simple.
    Jay
    07 C-Dory 25 Cruiser
    OurPlayground.


  13. #13

    Default

    I get the impression he's hauling by hand sometimes(zodiac),its one thing to spill line off a hydraulic gurdy or shiv into any sort of tub,another to pull by hand and drop it into a tub.Leaded line tends to be stiffer than what most people used to use (unleaded nylon soft lay ) spilling line off a line hauler.
    Then theres the topic of "running out the gear" vs throwing it out,you can set a pot and throw out 100 fathoms of well coiled bouyline in maybe 5-10 seconds,tub or no tub vs running it out(letting gravity and the boat do its bit).Less gear driftage,which can mean way less bouyline needed in the first place.
    Another thing most people may not be aware of is that you dont need leaded line for the whole length of bouyline.Use pre cut lengths of floating poly nearest the pot,tied to the leaded line,this helps keep your bouyline from snagging on the bottom,,poly is strong and cheaper than the leaded line,you might get 2 or 3 bouyline settups from that 100 fathom shot of leaded 3 strand.

  14. #14
    Sponsor potbuilder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Palmer
    Posts
    4,231

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ak4195 View Post
    I get the impression he's hauling by hand sometimes(zodiac),its one thing to spill line off a hydraulic gurdy or shiv into any sort of tub,another to pull by hand and drop it into a tub.Leaded line tends to be stiffer than what most people used to use (unleaded nylon soft lay ) spilling line off a line hauler.
    Then theres the topic of "running out the gear" vs throwing it out,you can set a pot and throw out 100 fathoms of well coiled bouyline in maybe 5-10 seconds,tub or no tub vs running it out(letting gravity and the boat do its bit).Less gear driftage,which can mean way less bouyline needed in the first place.
    Another thing most people may not be aware of is that you dont need leaded line for the whole length of bouyline.Use pre cut lengths of floating poly nearest the pot,tied to the leaded line,this helps keep your bouyline from snagging on the bottom,,poly is strong and cheaper than the leaded line,you might get 2 or 3 bouyline settups from that 100 fathom shot of leaded 3 strand.
    "Less gear driftage,which can mean way less bouyline needed in the first place."
    Please 'splain this to me or am i missing something?? Why do you need less buoyline?? The depth your gonna fish is the depth your gonna fish no matter how you set the gear and you still need 25-30% more buoyline than the depth of the water.

    "Then theres the topic of "running out the gear" vs throwing it out,you can set a pot and throw out 100 fathoms of well coiled bouyline in maybe 5-10 seconds,tub or no tub vs running it out"

    I'm again? So the extra minute it takes to run out 100fathoms of bouyline and knowing that its set right vs. a throw it out in a coil and hope that a ******** in the rope doesn't snag up the whole mess, sink the buoy and /or float your pot/pots away(somebody stole my gear ) makes sense ? Me i'll take the extra few minutes to set my gear running out the lines. (but what do i know)

    Alaska Shrimp Pots

    Rigid & Folding Shrimp & Crab Pots
    Electra Dyne Pot Haulers
    Ropes, Buoys, Bait
    alaskashrimppots.com
    akshrimppots@mtaonline.net
    907 775 1692

  15. #15
    Member jrogers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Anchorage
    Posts
    1,539

    Default

    The baskets that MRFISH has a link to are sold at Donalson's or at least they were last year. I looked at these, but then went with small (5 gallon?) trach cans from AHI with holes in the bottom. They have the really tough gray ones (I forget the brand) that should last forever. I coiled for a while onto spools, but then I figured out that I don;t have enough friends, nor good enough friends to sustain this. Dumping into a bucket works well, and as long as you feed it back out and don't dump the bucket, it never tangles.

    Larsenvega, are you saying that you pull your pots from an inflatable with a 600' line by hand (no davit), and coil the line on a spool?

    Jim

  16. #16
    Member hoose35's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Soldotna, Alaska, United States
    Posts
    2,891

    Default

    I have a 22' glasply, not much deck space. I haven't shrimped a whole lot, but what I have done is just pull the rope in and pile on the deck. Then later when I got time, I coil it into a 5 gal bucket. The only reason I use the 5 gal bucket though is because anything bigger would really clutter up my deck.

  17. #17
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Anchorage
    Posts
    198

    Default Line

    I use an Ace Line Hauler and the line pretty much coils itself on the deck as it comes off. Then, I just pick up the coiled line and drop it inside the collapsible pot (I have 600' on each pot). That way, the pots and line are all together and sit in a corner of the deck.

    When I had the rigid square pots and was pulling by hand, I put each pile of line on top of its pot and used two bungee cords across the top to hold the line in place. This worked well enough that I could even turn the pots up on their sides for more convenient storage in the back of the boat. Never had a problem with the line getting tangled.

  18. #18
    Member Larsenvega's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    348

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jrogers View Post
    Larsenvega, are you saying that you pull your pots from an inflatable with a 600' line by hand (no davit), and coil the line on a spool?

    Jim
    No, not on the spool. That would be quite the feat though, and would certainly solve my storage problem! As it stands right now, all cordage on my boats (anchor and pot lines) get hand pulled and coiled onto the deck as neatly as possible. I've never had them tangle on the way back out, but it isn't easy to walk around the piles of rope laying around. Plus, on the zodi, deck space is very limited. When you add a cooler, tackle box, net, rods, 6 gal fuel tank and battery, there is just enough space to comfortably fish by myself or with one other person. Here's a pic of what I'm working with!
    Attached Images Attached Images

  19. #19
    Moderator Paul H's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Anchorage
    Posts
    5,594

    Default

    Costco had 2 packs of plastic tubs for holding sodas, somehting like $15 for two of them. They are perfect for coiling shrimp lines, large dia and low sides. Also good that they come in a 2 pack, as I didn't tie mine down when we anchored up in a blow while the pots were soaking, and I lost one of them.


  20. #20

    Thumbs up Garden Reel is the Most Compact

    My brother n law gets 3 shots of 600' on one reel. It takes two people though. I've attached a picture of it.

    Doug
    Attached Images Attached Images
    We never really grow up, we only learn
    how to act in public

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •