Gusuk1's last thread brought this situation to mind, but I didn't want to derail or clutter his anymore than I have. But I'd like to know what you folks would have done in this situation? Years ago, some folks I know was hunting elk. On their way back to camp, I nice 6-point bull ran across the road in front of them and into a beaver pond and got mired down in the mud. They all surrounded this bull so there was no way he could ever escape. One of the guys got the bright idea of roping the elk and pulling it out of the pond with their Jeep Wagoneer, which they proceeded to do. After several roping attempts, they managed to rope one antler side, and pulled the elk out. The bull was so exhausted, it never even struggled...just slid on it's side. The guy's then pulled it over to a tree where they shot it and then pulled it up and skinned it. When thru with that job, the skinned carcass was lowered onto the roof carrier of the jeep and they drove off. When I first heard of this I called BS...until one of the guys flopped an envelope full of photos down in front of me to prove it. They had photos from the beginning to the end...documenting every sequence of the event.