This was our third trip in. On the previous trips we did not see what we were looking for. On this trip we got lucky and took these two hogs. The first one measured 42 x 14 and the second mesured 39 x 14 1/2. The weather cooperated with us even though we were freezing. The reason I think we got these rams was because it was winter in the back of the drainages. There was quite a bit of snow at the head waters of the drainages. It took us one and half days after spotting them to catch up with them. We laid at 300 yards for 5 hours while they were bedded waiting for them to stand up. We finally took the shots at 200 yards and they fell only 20 feet apart. While we were taking care of the animals it began to snow. Once we got the animals to camp it took us 18 hours of walking to get them back to the boat. We would walk 20 minutes with the first pack and then unload and go back and get the second load and bring it past the first load for 20 min. We had a great time and want to thank everyone on the forum for thier help and support.