I finally drew after 25 years, and the ram had been growing for half of them. He is the best one we saw that was remotely doable. Saw a 43 to 44" ram but would have been lost even if you were able to kill him. This sheep is 11 1/2 yrs old 39" on the long horn and 35" on the broomed side. We worked very hard for 8 days spending most of that time above 7000' looking over rams. Of course he was on a different mountain which required that we drop off a very steep face in the afternoon, wait for dark to move into valley floor. set up camp out of sight, then climb up to where we had been watching him for three days. The one downer of the whole trip was that the camera was knocked out of a pack on day 4 and was never recovered after lenghty looking. You can't let it ruin the whole trip but the only pictures are of horn in the yard. One 230 yd shot with my .308 ruger compact just before he departed did the trick. I came home with an absolutely perfect cape. 40 mile air was a pleasure to fly with and made our trip painless for their part.