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    Unhappy unit 20 A flood update

    I tok a little drive this morning all the way to cantwell. from Fairbanks... on my way home i went into my minng claim at ferry... with a detore in heally..

    Nenana river.... almost as bad a Tanana....
    healy creek... torent unpassable
    califorina creek ...unpassable
    Totatlinika... nope dont think so
    Rex creek... ( normally ankle deep) over front rack of Suzuki 500 with lift.

    Tanana AT Nenana is inches from over running dock rails.. barge line tank farm is under water....

    any one planning sheep or caribou in these areas should take heed.. IF it keeps up you may need to plan a change... Season is 10 days... i see at least a week before i can get all the way in and the Trails WONT be the same

    Rex trail is flooded FOR sure as is 99% of Tanana river basin

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    Default Delta area

    Anybody have any reports on the rivers from the Delta area? I'm guessing the same as the above report.

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    Unhappy

    Although I won't talk about where we are supposed to be sheep hunting... this is absolutely NOT good news.
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    We have been watching river reports all week long.

    I went to go see Salcha River and Tanana River this afternoon. I have pictures and video, so when I download them, I post them here... possibly later this evening.

    You have no idea how much I'll be disappointed if we can't make our sheep hunt.
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    Guess Ill have to launch my boat on the Richardson Hwy at Salcha and head towards the Salcha River and ehad on up

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    Default so i hear

    Sorry FULLDRAW... the news says Delta is as bad as shape as lower areas.. Fairbanks now has some road closures allong Chena and tanana river acesses... Railroad has stopped all trains Denali- Fairbanks..... to give you an idea..

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    oooooops my bad... railroad has stoped PASSENGER trains

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    Was in Paxson on Tuesday and snow level was down to 3000 feet. Raining like hell and all rivers and creeks were torrents. Going to take some serious sunshine to bring levels back to normal. I would plan for an "early" winter with snow in September! I hope I'm wrong!

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    Barring anymore rain, the tanana at nenana is forcast to drop below flood stage by the 3rd of aug. If the weather holds, that means anything upstream and draining into the tanana will be even lower by then. I hope the next 8 weeks is relatively dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel in Ak View Post
    Guess Ill have to launch my boat on the Richardson Hwy at Salcha and head towards the Salcha River and ehad on up
    I don't know, Daniel. Salcha is in bad shape, too.

    I'll post pictures here in a couple of minutes.
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    Here you go:

    Chena River yesterday

    This is the boat launch at AlaskaLand/Pioneer Park

    Tanana River where Chena and Tanana meet...
    I have previous pictures that I'll have to find of this same area May 30th, 2007. If I find them, I'll show you guys the comparison.


    Tanana River again:
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    Default Salcha River tonight

    Here is Salcha River:


    Here is the campground area for the boat launch for the Salcha River.


    Let's hope that's really the case for all these rivers will start going down by August 3rd.
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    YOWZER! My moose hunt doesn't start until Sept 8, but I'll be praying for sunshine so that all of you who have been training and prepping for your August hunts aren't forced to significantly revise your plans...

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    Went by the flood project dam last night. Logs are coming down river and piling up against the dam. Logs are all the way across the river and backed up for at least one hundred yards up stream. Saw a Moose coming down river in the water, when it got to the logs the water pushed it under and did not see it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdhunter View Post
    YOWZER! My moose hunt doesn't start until Sept 8, but I'll be praying for sunshine so that all of you who have been training and prepping for your August hunts aren't forced to significantly revise your plans...

    We already have for the most part. I moved my schedule to make this hunt happen, but I am thinking that maybe it's just a blessing and a time to rest before school starts for the kids and I should be able to get things around the house done before the winter sets in.

    Hunting, this month, was our priority, though... and if by God there is a miracle that happens in the next couple of days where the water drops dramatically, we will be on that mountain top with our rams.

    That's exactly what we need is... prayer for this rain just to STOP!
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    Default Make it stop raining. Anyone

    Someone mentioned putting their boat in on the Rich. It has already been done. The Salcha rescue had their fanboat out two days ago going from house to house grabbing people and pets. Their was plenty of water to drive the fanboat down the Old Rich and other roads south of the main Rich.

    The water is receeding pretty fast. The on-going problem is the water table has raised so much and the ground can not soak anymore water up. Even if the water level in the rivers go down, the saturated ground will take a long time to dry out. I did not have water in my basement until yesterday afternoon. The river level had dropped 8 feet from it's highest point by this time.

    It has to stop raining and quick.

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    Default Yeah, were full now

    OVer the years i have assited many a novice river crosser in the best of times.. I have seen 4 wheelers overturned, and engines flooded.. the thing to keep in mind even IF the waters subside is that the trial, that crossed the ,creek, stream, river, LAST WEEK... may not be the same one this week. or next... holes, boulders, logs, all may be hidden under the brackish waters. think of the additonal gear you will want to pack and the safty equipment you may need. If you have it on the bike and dont need it GREAT!!!! better then the other way around. meat/ gear trailers pose another risk to aide in tipping the additional side force of the current must be watched for. Plenty of rope and working winches is the only way to make questionable crossing safer then blind attempts.. and always single file, one at a time.

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    Flood Warning Update

    /O.CON.PAFG.FA.W.0007.000000T0000Z- 080802T2000Z/ /00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z. 000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/ MIDDLE TANANA VALLEY AK-CENTRAL INTERIOR- 1030 AM AKDT FRI AUG 01 2008
    ...THE FLOOD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON SATURDAY FOR THE TANANA RIVER FROM FAIRBANKS TO MANLEY HOT SPRINGS...
    2 TO 6 INCHES OF RAIN FELL ACROSS THE MIDDLE TANANA RIVER BASIN SINCE EARLY MONDAY MORNING. RAIN WILL TAPER OFF ACROSS THE AREA TODAY...BUT MORE RAIN IS EXPECTED AGAIN ON SATURDAY.
    FLOODING CONTINUES ALONG THE TANANA RIVER FROM THE FAIRBANKS DOWNSTREAM TO NENANA. THE FLOOD CREST IS EXPECTED TO MOVE PAST NENANA THIS AFTERNOON... AND THEN CONTINUE TO MOVE DOWNSTREAM AND IMPACT THE TANANA RIVER FROM NENANA TO MANLEY HOT SPRINGS THROUGH SATURDAY. FLOODING OF THE TANANA RIVER IN SALCHA HAS ENDED BUT WATER LEVELS ARE STILL HIGH IN THIS AREA.
    AT THE MOUTH OF THE CHENA RIVER...THE TANANA RIVER IS STILL BACKING UP WATER INTO THE LOWER CHENA RIVER...BUT WATER IS RECEDING. SEVERAL ROADS AND PROPERTIES ARE FLOODED ADJACENT TO THE LOWER CHENA RIVER IN FAIRBANKS.
    IN THE PERKINS LANDING AREA...THE TANANA RIVER HAS DROPPED ALMOST 1.5 FEET SINCE IT CRESTED ON WEDNESDAY EVENING. THE TANANA RIVER IS STILL NEARLY 1 FOOT ABOVE FLOOD STAGE AND IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN SO THROUGH AT LEAST SATURDAY. WATER IS SEVERAL FEET DEEP IN THIS AREA. MANY HOUSES HAVE BEEN FLOODED AND SOME ROADS ARE STILL IMPASSABLE. THE FLOOD CREST ON THE TANANA RIVER IS THE HIGHEST WATER LEVEL RECORDED IN FAIRBANKS SINCE THE RECORD FLOODING OF AUGUST 1967.
    IN NENANA...THE TANANA RIVER WENT ABOVE FLOOD STAGE LATE WEDNESDAY EVENING AND THE RIVER IS EXPECTED TO CREST AROUND 14.5 FEET FRIDAY AFTERNOON. PORTIONS OF NENANA ARE BEING FLOODED. AS OF 10 AM FRIDAY THE SHIP YARD ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN IS UNDER 2 FEET OF WATER...A SECTION OF THE ALASKA RAILROAD IS COVERED WITH AT LEAST 1 FOOT WATER...AND WATER IS BEGINNING TO RISE OUT OF DRAINAGE DITCHES IN TOWN. THE TANANA RIVER IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN ABOVE FLOOD STAGE IN NENANA THROUGH AT LEAST SATURDAY.
    FROM NENANA TO MANLEY HOT SPRINGS... THE TANANA RIVER IS NEAR BANK FULL OR RUNNING OVER BANK IN SOME LOCATIONS. WATER LEVELS WILL CONTINUE TO RISE DOWNSTREAM FROM NENANA AND CAUSE FLOODING ALONG THE TANANA RIVER. OLD MINTO AND SOME CABINS ALONG THIS STRETCH OF RIVER ARE LIKELY FLOODED. WATER LEVELS WILL RISE TO BANKFULL AT MANLEY HOT SPRINGS AND FLOODING IS POSSIBLE IN LOW LYING AREAS ADJACENT TO THE TANANA RIVER IN THIS AREA.
    A FLOOD WARNING MEANS THAT FLOODING IS IMMINENT OR OCCURRING. TAKE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS IMMEDIATELY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Went by the flood project dam last night. Logs are coming down river and piling up against the dam. Logs are all the way across the river and backed up for at least one hundred yards up stream. Saw a Moose coming down river in the water, when it got to the logs the water pushed it under and did not see it again.
    My mom saw a small black bear cub taking a ride down on the Talkeetna River yesterday.

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    Thanks COtoAk for the pic's.I took some today also from AlaskaLand........uh! I mean Pioneer Park.Im not going to get used to that name.Daniel

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    As for the Rex Trail, I won't go over there this year, too wet. Going somewhere else.
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