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    Fished Jim Creek last night with y0gee. Check out what he hooked into.

    After fighting the fish with what seemed like a clean hookup...

    Check out the image. A good, solid take down with a Mepps spinner, right?

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    Look closer. He was actually using a fly rod, with a chartreuse leech pattern fly...

    His fly actually hooked into the small eyelet of a swivel snap attached to someone's detached Mepps spinner! No kidding!

    What are the chances of THAT??!!

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    Wow a billion to 1. What a freak thing. It is a legal catch though, This is one of those things you remeber for a long time. Makes for great stories around the fire. Then when someone calls BS you break out the picture to prove it. Great shot and thanks for sharing
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    Can I get my Mepps spinner back?

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    The first Steelhead I ever hooked (I think I was 13 or 14) I hooked while casting a silver Williams Wobbler into a deep pool on a Lake Ontario trib. The lure had a barrel swivel attached to a split ring and then the spoon. When I got my fish in the hook on my lure had hooked the eye of the barrel swivel of an identical Williams hooked in the corner of the fishes mouth!!!
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    Seems like it would be 1:1,000,000 odds, but it's really a lot more common than anyone would ever imagine. I'lll bet you see a couple more guys chime in with a similar story.

    I've seen it happen at Ninilchik fishing kings, and in the combat zone at the Russian-Kenai confluence.

    Personally hooked our all time-biggest Kenai king in 35 years in that same manner. K-16 Kwik snagged the swivel on a GIANT Kenai fish that had already broken off someone else's mainline. All we had to show for nearly an hour of fighting that hawg was a 3 ft piece of leader, a mangled up zebra Spin-N-Glo and a bent (straightened?) 8/0 salmon hook.
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    Default speaking of freak occurances...

    my very first king salmon was caught in the homer lagoon when i was about six or so. it was open to snagging at that time, and there i was snagging away and i reeled up my line to cast again and i noticed i had hooked a little fish on one of my barbs. so i take this little fish off the hook and i throw it out in the water. all of a sudden this shadow appears and its going right for the fish i just tossed. so i throw out my hook and give it a snag and the fight is on. all of this is happening at my parents footsteps and they are just as excited as i am. my mom has the polaroid of me trying to hold up a king as big as i was, and ever since then i knew i was gonna be a fisherman.

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    Default So, is it really legal?

    I've caught a king before like this and wondered if it would be considered a legal catch. Because in reality, "your hook" did not catch the fish in the mouth. (snag means to hook a fish elsewhere than in its mouth)

    Just wondering, cause if it ever happens to me again, I need to know if it's legal or not...

    By-the-way, I didn't keep the king because I wasn't sure of the regs, but I did keep the spin-in-glow and leader.

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    I caught a silver once a couple yrs. ago on ship creek I hooked the stringer rope the fish was attached too i believe it belonged to the guy that got into a fight and got thrown into the water. Also had a buddy catch a 80# halibut his circle hook went through the eye of another circle hook half rusted away in the halibut mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishNphysician View Post
    Seems like it would be 1:1,000,000 odds, but it's really a lot more common than anyone would ever imagine. I'lll bet you see a couple more guys chime in with a similar story.


    Yep. I saw it last year in a semi-combat silver fishing spot. One woman had a fish on and it broke off, then shortly after another woman a few feet down from her brought in fish by hooking the broken off swivel. And this is the part that burns my ass.... The 1st woman sees the fish with her lure in it and goes over to not only reclaim her lure but she also bullies the woman out of her fish too saying it was her fish.

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    I had a similar thing happen last year fishing in michigan for bass.

    I hooked what seemed like a monster bass, till he jumped, then i could see it wasnt that big. It looked to be foul hooked in the lower belly area.

    When i got him in, it seems that someone else had caught this fish, and he had swallowed the hook. They cut the line, and released him.

    The hook had passed through his digestive system, and the shank was protruding from his (how do i put this) his rear excrement portal. My hook had gone through the eye of this hook. I gently removed the hook that the other person had cut off, and on the tip there was about a half inch long piece of plastic worm, which was still inside the fish. I worked it out, and then released the bass. I think i heard him say Thanks Bud! when i put him back in the water.

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    I have seen this happen one time so it is definately a fairly comon anomoly... Now something I have only heard of the one time is my cousins wife recently landed a silver without hooking it at all! Some how the fish hit the line causing it to double back on itself and the hook caught the line forming a noose. The noose sinched down on the fish and she was able to land it that way. They discussed it briefly and released the fish since it was not hooked in the mouth

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    I've caught two reds by hooking the eye of someone else's hook that was lodged in the fish. The first time I was amazed, the second time I realized that I had been doing a lot of fishing. Yes, the odds are low but it's a numbers game, and think of all the millions of drifts placed by the collective angler.

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    my buddy caught a 65# chromer on the Kenai a couple years back on the first drift of the day when his hook went in the eye of a swivel on a leader to the fish's mouth

    we asked F&G later that morning and they said as long as the original hook was in the mouth you're good to go

    the river was chocolate that day and it was the only King we saw boated

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglou View Post
    I've caught a king before like this and wondered if it would be considered a legal catch. Because in reality, "your hook" did not catch the fish in the mouth. (snag means to hook a fish elsewhere than in its mouth)

    Just wondering, cause if it ever happens to me again, I need to know if it's legal or not...

    By-the-way, I didn't keep the king because I wasn't sure of the regs, but I did keep the spin-in-glow and leader.
    I'd say yes, your hook did catch the fish. It just so happened to hook it's lip jewelry. Besides, the fish apparently went after your hook in the first place.
    But if the jewelry was other than in the lip, you loose!

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    we asked F&G later that morning and they said as long as the original hook was in the mouth you're good to go
    I wonder if they would try to bust you for using multiple hooks!

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    I saw somebody ticketed for this on the Kenai-Russian confluence last year. The guy caught a fish by the hook, that was in the mouth, and the law enforcement officer, said it was not his hook in the mouth, so therefore it counts as a snag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckslayer56 View Post
    I saw somebody ticketed for this on the Kenai-Russian confluence last year. The guy caught a fish by the hook, that was in the mouth, and the law enforcement officer, said it was not his hook in the mouth, so therefore it counts as a snag.
    we asked F&G later that morning and they said as long as the original hook was in the mouth you're good to go
    Looks like a classic case of a Pee-on with Power.
    Reminds me of some of the Building Officials I have to deal with. Most are doing their job respectively, and a few are a bit carried away. And you can't argue with them

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    Yeah, that's typical mall cop power tripping. Airport screeners are the worst for that especially at the 2nd level interrogations.

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