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    Default Inflatable Help Zodiak Type

    I have decided to go inflatable for operating cost's and versitilty. I am looking for something to use on PWS as well as inland water ways. I have been trying to do some research and am not having much luck.
    I have seen the alaska series and others but am looking for a console as well as an enclosure type of deal. I don't know if these enclosures and consoles are an after market product or what. I found something that looks simular to what I am looking for on Craigslist, but am looking for something larger. Can someone fill me in on what I am looking for.
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    I'd say consider one of the rigid hull inflatables, Naiad seems to have about the best rep, but they are tough to find.

    The catch 22 of a do it all boat is sometimes it doesn't do anything paticularly well. For rivers you really want to run a jet, and most inflatables don't work well with jet pumps.

    That said a ~16' rib with a 50 horse honda would be a pretty sweat setup.

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    Default I used a 16 ft Achilles for a few years

    we had a 50 merc and a 5 horse kicker, we wore chest waders and rain gear or float coats.
    Gear in dry bags etc. It was easy to beach and set up camp. Not very roomy or comfortable for the wife and and daughter, BUT it got us out there.
    I used a friends 18 foot zodiac for a trip out to Pigot bay very nice boat.
    Problem with RIBs are the price: one can buy a used 22 foot bayliner or such for what a used rib goes for.
    Neil Moomy has a good website, he's one of the sportboat gurus. http://www.neilmoomey.com/trips/

    I just met up with a friend in his 12 foot Zodiac 25/Yamaha he and a buddy went done to Main Bay from Whittier.
    I'm no expert but I have been out using inflatable sport boats for a few years and you can PM if I can be of any assitance. There are a LOT on Craigsist right now.
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    Default Doing Research

    I have been doing some research and yes there is a bunch of Bayliner's out there and was considering one. Everyone is trying to dump them. Their heavy as all get out. So to pull one is going to cost ya as well as pushing one in the water. Then was thinking aluminum. Little on the pricey side for me as I am looking maybe 12 to 15K
    I have seen some inflatables for as much as 120K but have also seen some reasonably priced ones.
    The guy around the corner from me has I think just what I am looking for parked in the driveway. Looks about 16' with console and canvas all around. The only problem is he is a cop who works nights (Patol Car in Driveway) and never see him outside and would hate to knock on his door and wake him to question him about his boat. Never met the guy but am hoping I can catch him outside sometime. I am sure the guy must thing I am a nut as everytime I drive home I drive real slow by his place to get a better view to see what it is he has. I think I will try and get a picture and decipher what it is he has as it is a sweet little thing.
    Just looking for something I can through some camping gear in as well as the wife and dog and go out for some fishing and camping.
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    Here is a rigid hull zodiak with a trailer: http://anchorage.craigslist.org/boa/756731279.html

    It may need a bit of work, but the price is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoiled one View Post
    Here is a rigid hull zodiak with a trailer: http://anchorage.craigslist.org/boa/756731279.html

    It may need a bit of work, but the price is right.
    I look at craigs every night and saw that one. The was another here in Eagle river with console. I have emailed the guy but he has not got back to me.
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    Default Consoles and enclosers

    are aftermarket, and come in a variety of types. Marita sells the fancy consoles, go look at some of their show room rigs. They can also be built by someone with a bit of talent for these kind of things. Tops can be made by any marine fabric specialist, I would even think that alaska tent and tarp could fashion something if you designed it. The boats do well as an all around, but if you want to run any skinny water you're on the wrong path. Sibs will run with a jet, but rigging takes some time to get right, and cavitation will still be a problem. Ribs have a deep V and are designed for off shore running, They are also somewhat heavy, so once on a sandbar, you might stay there for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Stout View Post
    are aftermarket, and come in a variety of types. Marita sells the fancy consoles, go look at some of their show room rigs. They can also be built by someone with a bit of talent for these kind of things. Tops can be made by any marine fabric specialist, I would even think that alaska tent and tarp could fashion something if you designed it. The boats do well as an all around, but if you want to run any skinny water you're on the wrong path. Sibs will run with a jet, but rigging takes some time to get right, and cavitation will still be a problem. Ribs have a deep V and are designed for off shore running, They are also somewhat heavy, so once on a sandbar, you might stay there for a while.
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    I will check out the aftermarket products. Still in the learning proccess but thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoiled one View Post
    Here is a rigid hull zodiak with a trailer: http://anchorage.craigslist.org/boa/756731279.html

    It may need a bit of work, but the price is right.
    I'm the one selling that one, so feel free to ask any questions here.

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    There is a business downtown called Busters, they do a good job of making an aftermarket cover. My advice is just get some good rain gear.

    Inflatables are good all around boats (not good at one thing ,but good enough to do a bunch of things) and at entry level pricing.

    Also, make sure you get a four-stroke if you ever want to dip-net out of the boat!

    Good Luck

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    Default To heck with raingear!

    Get yourself one of these little setups. It will fit your budget, has a Kenai-legal 2-stroke 50hp engine, and allows you to run with enough gear for two people. It has console steering, aluminum flooring and power trimming for the engine. My next addition is going to be a depth-finder for scoping out halibut terrain...and you won't get wet if you're running while its raining!

    After 148hrs on the boat this year the only complaint is that I do not have more time to play in it...yes, I'd love to have a 30ft boat with a cabin, head, stove, fishwells, sinks, multiple bunks, et cetera...its just that I'd have a hard time affording the fuel to run it more than 1-2 weekends a month. With that 50hp Tohatsu you'll be hard pressed to burn >20gallons in a three day weekend of running. Many folks burn that just to hit Culross and return.

    If you really want one of these boats, PM me first and look one over that's been done right the first time. There are a couple of tweaks that I'll add this winter but no complaints overall.

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    Default Inflatable with a jet

    I have a 13ft Novurania/rigid keel/Hyphalon with a 30 Johnson/jet drive. It has an adapter built by MSS that sets the motor up on top of the transom and performs great in PWS and 3 inches of water in rivers. My experience with this boat is unequalled for the money....it can do just about anything. Pretty cool to be able to run up a river and float back down, and very fuel effecient. Any questions, let me know.

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    Default what size

    is yours with the jet on it? Maybe a zodiak is what I have been looking for instead of a Cat......

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    Quote Originally Posted by coop3403 View Post
    I have a 13ft Novurania/rigid keel/Hyphalon with a 30 Johnson/jet drive. It has an adapter built by MSS that sets the motor up on top of the transom and performs great in PWS and 3 inches of water in rivers. My experience with this boat is unequalled for the money....it can do just about anything. Pretty cool to be able to run up a river and float back down, and very fuel effecient. Any questions, let me know.
    I have a zodi that I did the exact same thing with. I built the adapter out of plate aluminum and it was relatively inexpensive and works great. I have taken it out many times from Whittier to the Coghill for a few red salmon when the limit was 12 a couple of years ago. I went up stream several times just for fun up to the salmon weir. Like other have posted, it sometimes is wet ride. I have also towed it all over PWS with my CD 22 and used it as my trailer to haul gear, gas, beer - you name it! Also, when the big boat is on the hook, it is fun to run around the islands when the weather is nice. With a jet it is amazing where you can go. Ah, the joys of summer.....

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    Default towing

    how fast are you able to tow it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Formerly Montana Bob View Post
    I have decided to go inflatable for operating cost's and versitilty. I am looking for something to use on PWS as well as inland water ways. I have been trying to do some research and am not having much luck.
    I have seen the alaska series and others but am looking for a console as well as an enclosure type of deal. I don't know if these enclosures and consoles are an after market product or what. I found something that looks simular to what I am looking for on Craigslist, but am looking for something larger. Can someone fill me in on what I am looking for.
    Thanks
    I started with a 15' Avon, with a 35 hp Honda. There is a company called Todd who makes the smallest console I was able to find - out of heavy gauge plastic. I mounted this to my aluminum floor boards. AMDS used to carry inexpensive aluminum boxes with hinged lids. I mounted a couple of these to the floorboards also - with Fish-On swivel seats mounted on the lids. Kept the battery inside one of them, and tools and tackle inside the other one. The parts didn't cost all that much, and putting it together gave me a winter garage project.

    The boat came with a canvas cover. This was fine for going fast, but at trolling speed, it acted like a sail. We often went sideways as fast as we were going forward. Eventually got rid of the cover and instead wore neoprene waders and rain gear even on sunny days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullelkklr View Post
    how fast are you able to tow it?
    I have never been in much of a hurry when on the water unless the weather looks like it going down the drain, but I always felt comfy with 15 or so MPH - which is one the most fuel efficient planing speeds in a CD 22. If the weather is really really bad it doesn't track well and I deflate it and load it on top of the cabin. The jet pump sits in the back of the boat. It is one heavy beast and extremely difficult to do when alone. I have only had to do this once however (thanks goodness).

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    Default just bought one myself

    My wife just bought me a used inflatable with a 40 Horsepower jet i believe she said it was a Polaris spirit raft, I havent seen it but the price was right boat motor trailer. I am hoping to be able to take it out and use it for bear out of whittier and maybe up some interior rivers for moose. We will see. I would appreciate any insite anyone has about these rigs. I was looking at referbishing it with some Tuff coat. I also want to add protection for the bottom, any ideas would be greatly appreciated

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