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    Default Can't buy a gun in Kalifornia

    I'll try to keep this brief but the story needs a little background. I used to hunt a lot growing up in Arizona. Took the NRA gun safety course when I was about 13 before I was allowed to carry a rifle on a hunt. I've owned numerous rifles and pistols over the years and sold them as I fell away from the sport. I am not some ubarnite that watched Dirty Harry one day
    and decided he wanted a 44mag.
    OK so the wife and I plan a 3 week camping trip in Alaska flying into Anchorage July 6. I do some research and decide S & W 629 and Taurus Tracker in 44 mag would be a good fit for the wife and I for our trip to AK.
    Keep in mind I haven't purchased a firearm in about 20 years so I didn't realize how bad things have gotten. The last gun I bought was about 20 years ago, walked into the gun shop in AZ with a CA license payed for the handgun waited about 4 hours for the sherrif to do criminal check got the call from the shop said come and pick it up.
    So these days there is a 10 day wait in CA, well time flies and geez I realize we are at 11 days before the plane flies. Well circumstances have it I have to get a new Drivers License it takes 3 weeks to get the new license and the State technician put an old address on and gun shop won't take the temp license anyway. I have U.S. Passport, Credit Cards, Utility Bills, Padi Scuba, University ID on and on NOPE can't buy gun. NOT to worry the wife will go buy the guns I call gun shop reverify quote "all we need is a hard photo CA state issue ID or CA drivers license" whew. We get to gun shop she picks out s&w 629 and the tracker pulls out credit card and CA drivers license. Gun shop sales guy says " oh not good enough we need a copy of your utility bill, cable bill or similar bill from utility to match with drivers license" we race against the clock we have 1 hour before store closes we get such bills. Get back to store gun clerk says sorry can't by guns. Three years ago we bought new house and wife forgot to get address on drivers license updated.
    So we are fully qualified to own guns have all rights to own we are not criminals. Wife and I combined we have 2 current CA drivers licenses one (paper) temporary the other needs address update, 2 U.S. Passports. birth certificates, SS cards, Padi Scuba ID, University ID, multiple credit cards, State of California Contractors License ID, California Board of Registered Nurses ID, Utility Bills on and on and on Can't buy a gun.
    nfu__inG believable

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    Welcome to the People's Republic of California...it's ridiculous. Seems every other day there is a new hurdle. That's why I puruse the Alaskan Outdoors Forums...dreaming of the day I can leave this once grand state behind. I would laugh but its gone too far to even be funny anymore.

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    Default Kalifornication

    You have been Kalifornicated, This happens when ever you do something gun related in Kalifornication.
    Ted Kennedy’s car has killed more people than my gun!

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    There are some excellent firearms dealers here in Alaska who will outfit you.

    Bring your state-issued ID.

    Be prepared to fill out the federal paperwork.

    There is no state paperwork.

    The only potential hitch is if you have common names the 'instant check' may not be instant.

    But if you're legally permitted to buy a firearm, please bring your money to Alaska.

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    And it wouldn't be such a tough pill to swallow if losing your rights was making a positive difference.

    But it isn't. The place is more screwed up than ever. The gangs are larger, more numerous, and more violent. Crime isn't under control at all (whether it's gun crime or not). It's worse than ever. "Illegal immigration" isn't even "illegal" anymore in anything other than name. Fewer guns and less hunting hasn't resulted in more wildlife. There's less.

    How anyone can possibly point to the changes in California since 1960 and say that they're good is beyond me.

    Hell, it isn't even a neat place to visit, anymore............

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8x57 Mauser View Post
    There are some excellent firearms dealers here in Alaska who will outfit you.

    Bring your state-issued ID.

    Be prepared to fill out the federal paperwork.

    There is no state paperwork.

    The only potential hitch is if you have common names the 'instant check' may not be instant.

    But if you're legally permitted to buy a firearm, please bring your money to Alaska.

    He can't buy a handgun in Alaska, only a long gun. Get a Remmy 870

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildalaska View Post
    He can't buy a handgun in Alaska, only a long gun. Get a Remmy 870
    we be car (4wd SUV) camping so that is the plan 870 and udap spray.
    Appreciate the response. Any comments on the dixieslugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwalker View Post
    we be car (4wd SUV) camping so that is the plan 870 and udap spray.
    Appreciate the response. Any comments on the dixieslugs?
    I know nothing of the dixieslugs, sorry.

    I suggest, for large bear protection, Brenneke slugs. Good penetration, bone-breaking hardness and retention. One experienced woodsman I know carries bird shot in the chamber and Brennekes in the magazine. First shot to the face will generally turn the bear, allowing a side shot for the kill. That's his plan and it has worked for him in the past.

    For 44 magnum, private purchase and consignment sale when you leave.

    I carry the spray as first defense with 7.5" Ruger in 454 Casull as backup. So, I ratify your choices.

    Welcome to Alaska. I hope you enjoy your tour of our state.

    There are a couple of public access ranges in and near town where you can sight in and familiarize. You can read the Anchorage Daily News classified ads online at www.adn.com (no 44 magnums or shotguns today, but one portable bear fence for $150)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildalaska View Post
    He can't buy a handgun in Alaska, only a long gun.
    It appears I've missed something. Why can't he buy a handgun in Alaska?

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    I ran into problems buying any firearms up here because my AK drivers license had a Florida address. Luckily my wife decided "she" needed a 325 wsm.

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    I would have to move out of that state (CA).

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    Having a driver's license and one proof of residence ie: utility bill, voter's registration card with your physical address,etc. is the law in all state's now...not just California. Frankly, you are better off with a shotgun than a handgun for bear defense if you didn't have the time to practice more with the handgun. I have no info on Dixie Slugs. I've shot a couple small black bears with basic Remington slugs and they've done the job just fine.

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    Default ID for gun purchase.

    Begging your pardon AKDoug' I don't think that's a nationwide requirement! I recently purchased a couple firearms in FL and only had to show a driver's license. Other picture ID, such as CCW or military ID will work also.

    However, FL is extremely liberal for gun purchases compared to most other states. CA hasn't always been as antigun as nowadays. I was stationed at NAS Lemoore (30 miles south of Fresno) from 1970 -77 and bought probably 20-30 firearms over that time; only required a DL back then or military ID.

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    Default Simple solution

    Do a private party sale. There are plenty for sale

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    Drivers License only here in Louisiana nothing else required have to be a resident for a handgun ,long guns can be bought by non residents if their state touches Louisiana ...Good luck with your trip have shot dixie slugs they will out preform all others at least in my guns.....

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    At the particular gun dealer I was dealing with, on the Form 4473, he required proof of address in the form of something other than my driver's license.

    This conversation has brought to my attention a possible reason for this. I live in an area with no street addresses, my driver's license has my mailing address not my physical address. They required proof of physical residence, but I'm sure they said that the DL was not proof of a residence. It would be interesting to get a solid opinion on this about filling out a Form 4473 since it's a federal form and should have the same rules nation wide.

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    Default Did I miss something?

    You purchased a couple of revolvers in Arizona over the counter, and your identification doesn't work there? Or did you purchase them in Arizona and have them shipped to a California FFL, and having problems with the California FFL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darreld Walton View Post
    You purchased a couple of revolvers in Arizona over the counter, and your identification doesn't work there? Or did you purchase them in Arizona and have them shipped to a California FFL, and having problems with the California FFL?
    I bought a handgun in AZ 20 years ago w/ a CA license and notning else,
    didn't even live in AZ at the time, took 4 hrs thats it. Problem is with CA today see original post.

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    Default Basic requirements

    I have worked in AK gun store for several years until physical problems put a stop to it. However, it is a FEDERAL law that a person buying a handgun must have a DL or military ID and orders which show you are currently based in AK or wherever. If you are a civilian, you must have proof of current physical address. If not on the DL or State ID, you must have proof such as a utility bill or rental agreement showing you have lived at that address for, I believe, three months. If you are from out of state and want to purchase a long gun, if it is legal in your home state, a DL from your home state will do.
    By suggesting to a California or other out of state person they can purchase a handgun from an Alaskan resident, you are suggesting they do an illegal transaction that can get the Alaskan who sells the gun in very hot water. You cannot legally do a private gun transaction with an out of state resident for a handgun.

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    I believe here in Pennsylvania if you have a concilled weapons permit you can walk out with a handgun but its been years since I bought one.
    BTW I HIGHLY recommend a c.w.p. it covers your ***** in a lot of ways
    and also see if AK honors a CA license as it is by state not nationwide permit.

    The communist state of N.Y. can only escort you to the border where they have to give your gun back IF you have a CWP from another state

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