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    Default Any fuel in SW PWS?

    This may sound like a silly question, but I have not ventured out too far from Whittier yet. I have been doing some reading, and read of some older villages and lodges around....but my book is pretty dated.

    Is there anywhere that you can purchase fuel down near south Montague? I see there is a web cam at Port San Juan. Does Port San Juan or any place else down there sell fuel?

    Just trying to prepare for a worst case scenario.

    Thanks for the help.

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    I've heard mixed things about getting fuel out in the sound.

    If you really want to prepare for worst case, bring enough on board for whatever your planned longest distance with 1/3 reserve. Unfortunately the portable tank tunnel restrictions make for additional time and PITA of filling up at the dock before departing.

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    Default Be prepared!

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul H View Post
    I've heard mixed things about getting fuel out in the sound.

    If you really want to prepare for worst case, bring enough on board for whatever your planned longest distance with 1/3 reserve. Unfortunately the portable tank tunnel restrictions make for additional time and PITA of filling up at the dock before departing.
    I don't know of any place to get fuel other than the established towns.

    as far as fuel through the tunnel................................well hide it!

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    As far as I know there's no fuel available in SW PWS.

    Do you have a link the the webcam at Port San Juan?
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    If your nice you can usually buy fuel in Chenega.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 375ultramag View Post
    If your nice you can usually buy fuel in Chenega.

    Don't count on it! They have been known to turn folks away...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by 375ultramag View Post
    If your nice you can usually buy fuel in Chenega.
    If they do give you fuel you need gas cans. It a walk up the hill to get fuel. Bring allot of cash with you.
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    Default Not in Chenaga

    You'll have better luck getting fuel off a commercial boat in the Sound than over at Chenaga. I've tried, they weren't helful at all.
    What happened to the idea of a floating "store" on a barge out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 375ultramag View Post
    If your nice you can usually buy fuel in Chenega.
    Have you actually bought fuel in Chenega?
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    Default Here's a ditch plan...

    Wire the money to my secret Swiss bank account and I'll give you the GPS coordinates to my 35gallon stash in South Culross or my 7gal stash at the north end of Culross. I've been taking extra gas along at every opportunity and making a gas cache for fall hunting and/or emergency bailouts...I even have extra 2-stroke oil for my direct injection engine right alongside the fuel. It is MUCH easier to take extra fuel along with you earlier in the season. I think that I'll eventually just take a couple of 35gallon barrels out there and make a secret little depot. That would be the ticket to my way of thinking...

    BTW...the stashed gas is ONLY $10/gallon. A bargain when you think about it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkmail View Post
    You'll have better luck getting fuel off a commercial boat in the Sound than over at Chenaga.
    BK
    BK is right. Fuel is usually cheaper from them that at the fuel dock, too. I have a friend that does this whenever he has a chance.
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    Default Big Negative!

    chenega,will only help in an emergency(life or death). they dont care much for the "puker boats".Bring the gas with you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckwear View Post
    chenega,will only help in an emergency(life or death). they dont care much for the "puker boats".Bring the gas with you!

    I don't think it matters what flavor the boat is, but more the flavor of the captain.
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    Default PWS Webcams

    Here is the link to the webcams at Port San Juan. It is mounted at the AFK Fish Hatchery. The hatchery also has gas for their own use, but in a life or death siteeation, I am sure they would be willing to help out. A buddy of mine is the chief engineer there....
    http://ak.aoos.org/obs/inst_web_cameras.php?region=PWS

    by the by; there is also a charter flight daily in and out of Chenega that in an emergency one could hop a flight back to Merrill Field on.....

    IceKing - I sure hope that EPA or other regulatory bodies don't hear about your fuel cache's....you could find yourself in some boiling water over that one....

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    Default Ya' right!

    I've seen the EPA out there EVERY weekend scouring the beaches whenever a small boat lands... BIOYA! Hee, hee...

    You're gonna spill more fuel while filling up your lawnmower this summer than is going to leak out of somebody's fuel cache. It is every bit as precious to the end-user as to the EPA that those fuel lids stay tight--especially with the price of fuel these days!

    I'm sure that a container of gasoline WOULD bring a new twist to geocaching, however!

    Cheers!

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    IceKing,

    Hope the bears don't find them. They love to eat plastic!
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    [quote=IceKing02;294422
    You're gonna spill more fuel while filling up your lawnmower this summer than is going to leak out of somebody's fuel cache. It is every bit as precious to the end-user as to the EPA that those fuel lids stay tight--especially with the price of fuel these days!

    I'm sure that a container of gasoline WOULD bring a new twist to geocaching, however!

    Cheers![/quote]

    That might indeed be the case...however, that sure isn't how they view it. They view the POTENTIAL to harm the environment. Especially after all the Exxon spill happened in PWS, I am confident they are super sensitive to PWS. I am sure if you actually called one of the regulatory offices and just randomly inquired about having a fuel cache out there, you would hear an entirely different story.....
    Just like driving 70mph on the Glenn at 2am when there is no traffic....doesn't make it legal just because no one is around. I am confident that unless the storage containers were sealed and certified by a HAZMAT specialist that gub'ment would seriously frown on every Tom Dick or Harry setting fuel cache's out there in the sound....

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    Quote Originally Posted by akseakayaker View Post
    Here is the link to the webcams at Port San Juan.
    Thanks for the link!
    Quote Originally Posted by northwestalska
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod in Wasilla View Post
    Thanks for the link!
    You are most welcome!

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    Default akseakayaker...

    read your PM...

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